RSF gleefully slaying thousands in el-Fasher

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‘A true genocide’: RSF kills people in Sudan’s el-Fasher
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025...nations-slam-rsf-killings-in-sudans-el-fasher

EXCERPTS: The RSF, which has been fighting Sudan’s military for control of the country, killed ... people over the past three days as civilians tried to flee the besieged city, the Sudan Doctors Network said on Wednesday. The group, which tracks the country’s civil war, described the situation as “a true genocide”. [...] It said the attacks are being carried out as part of a “deliberate and systematic campaign of killing and extermination”. [...] Sexual violence, particularly against women and girls, was also reported in the city, they said.

Al Jazeera’s Hiba Morgan, reporting from Khartoum, said videos on social media taken by the RSF showed fighters “shooting at civilians attempting to flee”.

“The latest and most disturbing video to surface was of the fighters roaming through what has been identified as the Saudi Hospital in the city of el-Fasher, executing patients,” Morgan said. [...] Among those killed were health workers, Morgan added. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, director general of the World Health Organization (WHO), said that more than 460 people were killed at the Saudi Maternity Hospital. [...] The Sudan Doctors Network said RSF fighters on Tuesday “cold-bloodedly killed everyone they found inside the Saudi Hospital, including patients, their companions, and anyone else present in the wards”.

[...] Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Qatar, Turkiye and Jordan have condemned the abuses committed by the RSF in Sudan....

AP NEWS: As part of their assault on el-Fasher, RSF fighters also went from house to house, beating and shooting at people, including women and children, witnesses told The Associated Press. Many died of gunshot wounds in the streets, some while trying to flee to safety, witnesses said. [...] “It was a like a killing field,” Tajal-Rahman, a man in his late 50s, said over the phone from the outskirts of Tawila. “Bodies everywhere and people bleeding and no one to help them.”
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‘A true genocide’: RSF kills people in Sudan’s el-Fasher
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025...nations-slam-rsf-killings-in-sudans-el-fasher

EXCERPTS: The RSF, which has been fighting Sudan’s military for control of the country, killed ... people over the past three days as civilians tried to flee the besieged city, the Sudan Doctors Network said on Wednesday. The group, which tracks the country’s civil war, described the situation as “a true genocide”. [...] It said the attacks are being carried out as part of a “deliberate and systematic campaign of killing and extermination”. [...] Sexual violence, particularly against women and girls, was also reported in the city, they said.

Al Jazeera’s Hiba Morgan, reporting from Khartoum, said videos on social media taken by the RSF showed fighters “shooting at civilians attempting to flee”.

“The latest and most disturbing video to surface was of the fighters roaming through what has been identified as the Saudi Hospital in the city of el-Fasher, executing patients,” Morgan said. [...] Among those killed were health workers, Morgan added. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, director general of the World Health Organization (WHO), said that more than 460 people were killed at the Saudi Maternity Hospital. [...] The Sudan Doctors Network said RSF fighters on Tuesday “cold-bloodedly killed everyone they found inside the Saudi Hospital, including patients, their companions, and anyone else present in the wards”.

[...] Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Qatar, Turkiye and Jordan have condemned the abuses committed by the RSF in Sudan....

AP NEWS: As part of their assault on el-Fasher, RSF fighters also went from house to house, beating and shooting at people, including women and children, witnesses told The Associated Press. Many died of gunshot wounds in the streets, some while trying to flee to safety, witnesses said. [...] “It was a like a killing field,” Tajal-Rahman, a man in his late 50s, said over the phone from the outskirts of Tawila. “Bodies everywhere and people bleeding and no one to help them.”
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The RSF should get along well with the IDF and Netanhayu, then!

What I'm unclear about is the basis of the genocide. These are Arab fighters killing other muslims. Are the muslims in question black and is that why they are being killed?

 

[TheVat]

 

[TheVat]

What I'm unclear about is the basis of the genocide. These are Arab fighters killing other muslims. Are the muslims in question black and is that why they are being killed?

IIRC, the Janjaweed (now called RSF) are secular nationalists and will kill Muslims who they see as a threat to a secular Arab nation. They target any non-Arab ethnicity, which means mainly African peoples in Darfur. As I understand it, they are not necessarily opposed to Islam purely as a faith but opposed to Islamism, which is the political doctrine that countries should be governed by Islam and institute Sharia law.

 

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UAE funneling weapons from UK, US, and other world actors to both RSF and SAF?

Britain urged to stop selling weapons to UAE after genocide claims (excerpts): Britain has been urged to suspend arms sales to the United Arab Emirates (UAE) after UK military equipment was found in the hands of the Sudanese militia alleged to be carrying out genocide in Darfur.

Babikir Elamin, Sudan’s ambassador to the UK [...] Citing the report handed to the UN, he said Britain must “investigate” the reports that its military products were being used by the RSF in its fresh campaign of “heinous atrocities”.

In Parliament on Tuesday, Yvette Cooper, the Foreign Secretary, was asked whether Britain would suspend arms sales to the UAE “until it is proven that the UAE is not arming the RSF”. Ms Cooper did not directly answer the question, instead saying Britain had “extremely strong controls on arms exports” and “will continue to take that immensely seriously”.

Monica Harding MP, Liberal Democrat spokesman for international development, said: “The civil war in Sudan is the biggest humanitarian crisis in the world. Millions are on the brink of starvation and experiencing unimaginable suffering. The possibility that British military equipment is contributing to the horrors occurring there, and aiding the carnage caused by the RSF, is horrific. The UK must cease all arms sales to the UAE immediately until we can confirm, without a doubt, that no British weapons are going via the UAE to the RSF.”

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US urged to end arms sales to UAE as it backs genocidal paramilitary in Sudan (excerpts): Calls are growing for the U.S. to end arms transfers to the United Arab Emirates (UAE) after reports of horrific slaughter in Sudan this week by the UAE-backed Rapid Support Forces (RSF). [...] “As we witness horrific scenes in El-Fasher, the UAE continues arming the RSF — which the U.S. has determined is committing genocide. Enough. We must pass my bill to block arms sales to the UAE until it stops fueling the RSF’s war crimes in Sudan,” said Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-Maryland), a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

[...] Analysts say that the war would be over if not for the UAE supplying weapons. Despite this, the U.S. has maintained a flow of weapons to the UAE, which is a major supplier for RSF.

Last year, the Biden administration advanced a $1.2 billion weapons sale to the UAE, despite evidence that the country was not making good on its pledge to not provide weapons to the RSF. Then, in May, the Trump administration notified Congress of a $1.4 billion sale of weapons and military equipment to the UAE, ahead of a visit to the UAE and Saudi Arabia by President Donald Trump.

U.S. intelligence agencies have reportedly assessed that the UAE increased its supplies of weapons to Sudan this year, including with advanced drones and bombs from China that UAE officials re-exported to RSF...

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UAE asserts that allegations against it are groundless (excerpt): In an emailed statement, the UAE Strategic Communications Department said the UAE has consistently supported efforts to achieve a ceasefire, protect civilians and ensure accountability for violations and rejected claims it provided any form of support to either warring party. "The latest UN Panel of Experts report makes clear that there is no substantiated evidence that the UAE has provided any support to RSF, or has any involvement in the conflict," the statement said.

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VIDEO EXCERPT: The war would not have continued this long had there not been sustained, persistent direct support to both belligerents. The RSF did not just magically get these arms. They did not grow them out of the land. They got them through international actors, particularly the United Arab Emirates. Everything they got from other countries was also facilitated by the United Arab Emirates.

So the responsibility of this is not only on the Rapid Support Forces. It's on the United Arab Emirates and also the other countries that continue to refuse to hold the United Arab Emirates to account.

Just a couple of days ago there was a report of UK made weapons being used by the Rapid Support Forces, obviously facilitated through the United Arab Emirates. We've seen similar reports about European countries and so on and so forth. The responsibility of this is largely on the United Arab Emirates, and they should be held to account...

(video link) After yet more atrocities in Sudan, what will end the conflict?

 

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Not so much asymmetric warfare, then, as isomeric?

 

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• ATROCITY ALERT:
  
  1) Most remaining civilians have not fled El Fasher - likely trapped or dead
  2) RSF continues mass killings
  3) Displaced people visible in Garni, location of reported gross human rights abuses.

Satellite images
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/satell...g-is-continuing-in-sudan-yale-researchers-say

EXCERPTS: Satellite imagery suggests mass killings are likely continuing in and around Sudan's El-Fasher, Yale researchers said [...] The lab identified at least 31 clusters of objects consistent with human bodies between Monday and Friday, across neighborhoods, university grounds and military sites. "Indicators that mass killing is continuing are clearly visible," the lab said. [...] "By 31 October 2025, the change in activity may reflect that few people remain alive."

[...] The U.N. says more than 65,000 people have fled El-Fasher, but tens of thousands remain trapped. Around 260,000 people were in the city before the RSF's final assault. ... U.N. officials have warned that the violence is now spreading to the neighboring Kordofan region, with reports emerging of "large-scale atrocities perpetrated" by the RSF...

[...] The RSF has received weapons and drones from the UAE, according to U.N. reports, though Abu Dhabi has denied giving any support to the paramilitary group...
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[Wizard of Whatever]

Specifically targeting and killing civilians, men woman and children. No doubt about it.. And the rest of the world sits on its ass and does nothing, still thinking they are human. This is real genocide. How many times is the world going to allow this to happen. Each time the rest of the world loses a bit of their own humanity.

 

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Specifically targeting and killing civilians, men woman and children. No doubt about it.. And the rest of the world sits on its ass and does nothing, still thinking they are human. This is real genocide. How many times is the world going to allow this to happen. Each time the rest of the world loses a bit of their own humanity.

Pop journalism rarely seems to cover how and who cleans up the carnage afterward, including the option of setting fire to heaps of corpses. One might expect the ubiquitous odor, swarms of necrophagous insects, and the array of animal scavengers to overwhelm any haggard survivors and compel them to just abandon the city afterward, rather than try to restore it to habitability.

Similarly, even with hauling and digging equipment available, it's difficult to picture RSF members engaging in orchestrated disposal work if they're primarily killers, rather than grunt-labor oriented. They might permit some survivors to exist and direct them at gunpoint to perform such tasks. But otherwise, the horrendous environment would seem to drive the RSF itself to largely move on to the next campaign or location for "purifying the living". Doubtless, though, some personnel would remain on the outside perimeter to signify who now claimed the territory.

OTOH, perhaps one should not underestimate the capacity of humans to tolerate abiding in the middle of a dysfunctional cemetery or murder ground. Adaptation to the foulness and a routine of walking slash driving around or over rotting tissue and scorched bones might be possible for the hardy and desperate enough. Even without coordinated organization and effort to speed things up, the stark horrors would incrementally and eventually be removed.
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[TheVat]

They might permit some survivors to exist and direct them at gunpoint to perform such tasks

Historically, AFAICT this is a common method. When backhoes are absent, you assemble some reasonably fit survivors and get them to work with shovels and sacks of lime. The indifference of the world has some to do with each nation focused on its own problems, and some to do with a kind of epistemic distance from an atrocity. The farther it is, measured both in miles and cultural differences, the less our empathy is engaged.

 

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Historically, AFAICT this is a common method. When backhoes are absent, you assemble some reasonably fit survivors and get them to work with shovels and sacks of lime. The indifference of the world has some to do with each nation focused on its own problems, and some to do with a kind of epistemic distance from an atrocity. The farther it is, measured both in miles and cultural differences, the less our empathy is engaged.

And despite some of the arms perhaps coming from the West (via UAE, or whatever middleman) it's probably more difficult from an activist standpoint to conceive this as Euro-Anglo-etc hegemony directly at work. The Janjaweed background of the RSF just doesn't lend itself to attributions of Western imperialism and cultural incursion. It might be construed as an in-house "ideology migration" from other parts of the Arab world, but nothing like "outsider" and colonialism loaded Zionism. ("Semitic people" in general ethnic context seems pretty much a legacy reference to multiple ancient peoples, with only language associations still lingering or carrying any weight -- the racial grouping being obsolete.)
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