Remote viewer hones in on secret alien/military underground base

The story so far:

MR: "Alien ET base under a mountain!"
Skeptic: "How will you demonstrate it's not just woo?"
MR: "With Psychic Mind Woo!"
Skeptic: How will you demonstrate Psychic Mind Woo is not woo?"
MR: "Nice try sonny. I'll demonstrate it with ... yet more Psychic Mind Woo!"
Skeptic: "Ah. So it's woo all the way down."

But sure. Just confirming this is in the correct forum.

"Project Stargate lasted for approximately 23 years, running from 1972 until its official closure by the US military in 1995; making it a roughly 23-year program."

Pretty sure the CIA in alliance with Stanford University wouldn't have devoted 23 years to something that didn't work. I mean how long does it take to realize that something is just "woo"? 6 months maybe?

"Remote Viewing performance across all three labs shows a remarkable consistency over many years: about 75% of what could be objectively evaluated proved to be correct. The evidence to back that statement comes in two parts, protocols in which a statistical outcome is the measure, and application protocols where probability statistics are only one aspect of assessment. Typically, in an archaeological project, the latter would include concept-by-concept analyses of such things as location, surface geography, subsurface or marine descriptive concepts, as well as detailed descriptions of conditions and objects found at the located site."--- https://psi-encyclopedia.spr.ac.uk/articles/remote-viewing

"Project Stargate had several notable moments, though its results were mixed and often controversial. Remote viewers were sometimes able to provide accurate descriptions of the locations of hostages or downed aircraft that had eluded conventional intelligence methods. In one instance, remote viewers reportedly helped locate a Soviet Tu-95 bomber that had crashed in Africa. They also provided descriptions of foreign military installations, particularly those of the Soviet Union, which were later confirmed by satellite imagery. These instances gave proponents of Stargate some evidence that remote viewing had practical value in intelligence work.

The bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, was also investigated by the remote viewers of Project Stargate (then operating under the name Project Sun Streak) in 1990, two years after the horrific event. Remote viewers were asked to replicate aspects of the bombing through psychic means. One subject described a “cylindrical shape” with something moving inside it, which matched the general description of the baggage container and the cassette player in which the bomb was hidden. However, while some of the descriptions resonated with the bombing details, the information was too vague and lacked enough specificity to be considered useful for intelligence purposes.

During Project Stargate, some remote viewers claimed to have visited not only distant locations on Earth but also other planets, as well as different points in time. One of the most famous accounts involved Ingo Swann, who reportedly described specific features of Jupiter during an experiment. His descriptions, given before the Voyager spacecraft arrived at the planet, were later found to align with scientific findings, such as the presence of Jupiter’s rings.

In addition to planetary exploration, some remote viewers alleged that they could perceive events from both the past and future. These included visions of ancient civilisations and future global disasters, though these claims were harder to substantiate and remain controversial. Critics argue that these “off-planet” and time-traveling visions were more speculative than grounded in actionable intelligence. Nonetheless, such claims added a layer of intrigue to the already mysterious and controversial Project Stargate."--- https://www.paranormalinsight.co.uk...e-u-s-government-s-secret-psychic-experiments
 
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Wow.. The more you know! In the 1970's, Pat Price was one of the best remote viewers used by the CIA's Operation Stargate to spy on Russian assets. During one session, he is drawn away to the remote Mt Hayes in central Alaska and sees an underground facility there manned by humanoid aliens and normal humans. Here's the real story and what happened. Later, another remote viewer, uninformed of her target, discovers precisely the same base, adding she had a sense of experimentations and dissections going on there. What the hell is our military hiding?


It might be interesting to examine the original Stargate Project documents to see if such coherence or agreement over multiple "remote viewers" is actually supported. But I don't have the stamina to pore through them any more than listening to the time-consuming Monroe Institute videos (if any of those actually feature "official" audio from Stargate activities), since the papers are an utterly disorganized jumble.

They're merely the declassified files, too, which includes items like this one, which seems to be an unenlightening list of sessions: Approved for release.

The Stargate Project Archive
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/collection/stargate

A Guide to Stargate Project Archives
https://www.irva.org/library/stargate-guide

Wild Jack Sarfatti has been associated with the project, though his role is unclear. He did have general interactions with CIA eccentricity. His account: "I go to SRI [Stanford Research Institute], I meet all these spooks from the CIA [...] and I talk about what happened in 1953, and then they say: 'Well, yeah, we think UFOs are coming from the future.'"

Sarfatti was supposedly directly connected with a CIA and DIA program that literally wasted money researching Uri Geller, the magician masquerading as having psychic powers.

Project Stargate — Ordo ab Chao
https://ordoabchao.ca/volume-five/project-stargate

EXCERPT: The CIA and Defense Intelligence Agency set up a program called ESPionage, financing research conducted by SRI, which in 1974 hired Jack Sarfatti and the Fundamental Fysiks Group to help with its research into Geller. Jack Sarfatti is an American theoretical physicist educated at Cornell, where as he explained, the “CIA finds many of its academics.”
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Astonishing in-depth information on the remote viewing results of Pat Price and the 4 underground alien/military bases he described. Interestingly Pat Price died only two days after this revelation. Another more detailed remote viewing of these mountain facilities was achieved in the 80's revealing astounding detail you will find hard to believe. Here is actual audio of the session as it is happening as performed by legendary RV Joseph McMoneagle. Several other remote viewers confirmed these results and their locations, adding even more tantalizing details. Start at the 5:05 time mark to get into the meat of the episode:

 
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It might be interesting to examine the original Stargate Project documents to see if such coherence or agreement over multiple "remote viewers" is actually supported. But I don't have the stamina to pore through them any more than listening to the time-consuming Monroe Institute videos (if any of those actually feature "official" audio from Stargate activities), since the papers are an utterly disorganized jumble.

They're merely the declassified files, too, which includes items like this one, which seems to be an unenlightening list of sessions: Approved for release.

The Stargate Project Archive
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/collection/stargate

A Guide to Stargate Project Archives
https://www.irva.org/library/stargate-guide

Wild Jack Sarfatti has been associated with the project, though his role is unclear. He did have general interactions with CIA eccentricity. His account: "I go to SRI [Stanford Research Institute], I meet all these spooks from the CIA [...] and I talk about what happened in 1953, and then they say: 'Well, yeah, we think UFOs are coming from the future.'"

Sarfatti was supposedly directly connected with a CIA and DIA program that literally wasted money researching Uri Geller, the magician masquerading as having psychic powers.

Project Stargate — Ordo ab Chao
https://ordoabchao.ca/volume-five/project-stargate

EXCERPT: The CIA and Defense Intelligence Agency set up a program called ESPionage, financing research conducted by SRI, which in 1974 hired Jack Sarfatti and the Fundamental Fysiks Group to help with its research into Geller. Jack Sarfatti is an American theoretical physicist educated at Cornell, where as he explained, the “CIA finds many of its academics.”
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Fascinating explanations by Sarfatti for uap capabilities as well as future time travel. Somewhat deflating that the ones behind all these uaps is just us from the future though. I wanted aliens so bad! lol But maybe this is just one piece of the puzzle. I'm beginning to feel the possibility of that common online phrase: "Everything you thought you knew is wrong."
 
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I wanted aliens so bad! lol

I would suspect with a high degree of probability most people who are interested in science wanted aliens so bad. I'm sure for many it's probably the number one item on their wish lists, to know without a shadow of doubt there is intelligent life somewhere else in the universe hopefully to have witnessed it themselves. I know it's high on my wish list, right after walking on the moon.

Certainly, I wouldn't delude myself into believing they have allegedly visited Earth multiple times, without some hard evidence. The reason for that is science. Knowing there are billions of stars in our galaxy and billions if not trillions of galaxies in the universe, it seems a no-brainer to believe there could very well be a great deal of intelligent life forms out there.

But the distances and vastness of space, even within our own galaxy makes it so unlikely us and them will ever know the other exists, let alone making such a journey to visit one another. Travelling anywhere in our galaxy takes eons and requires massive resources.
But maybe this is just one piece of the puzzle. I'm beginning to feel the possibility of that common online phrase: "Everything you thought you knew is wrong."
Much of what you do think is wrong. Glad to see you admit it. ;)
 
Astonishing in-depth information on the remote viewing results of Pat Price and the 4 underground alien/military bases he described. Interestingly Pat Price died only two days after this revelation.
You can read all about Pat Price and the remote viewing experiment, their results and conclusions. Of course, they found Price and the others "abilities" useless and not much better than guesses.

 
MR wants to be the one who finds where the aliens are hiding. He doesn't care if they then vaporize the planet, he's been PROVEN RIGHT!

Been a good long while since his previous victory, potty training.
 
Fascinating explanations by Sarfatti for uap capabilities as well as future time travel. Somewhat deflating that the ones behind all these uaps is just us from the future though. I wanted aliens so bad! lol But maybe this is just one piece of the puzzle. I'm beginning to feel the possibility of that common online phrase: "Everything you thought you knew is wrong."

They could still be of space alien provenance, even in an imaginative time-travel context. If a millions years or more in the future, then space travelers originating from Earth would have long since colonized other worlds.

The settlers incrementally turning into "foreign life" or even being replaced by microbot-constituted bodies. The former could eventually occur in the context of natural evolution and adaptation to other planetary environments. But with artificial bio-engineering and robotic technologies accelerating developments, there would be a diverse horde of intelligent species arising much sooner.

Self-replicating machines could weather the interstellar distances between stars at sub-light speeds, and take along genetic material (or information equivalent) for resurrecting and raising their "ugly bags of water" creators slash intellectual ancestors. But given the supposed FTL nature of the hypothetical UAP "visitors", they might have devised a way to undermine physical regularities or re-program instructions locally around a vessel (the latter if we happened to occupy a simulation).

Granting, of course, that those decades-old speculations of Mad Jack and his eccentric CIA associates were the case (purely to examine what else could fall out of the proposal).
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I'd bet your bottom dollar that some ... thing ... somewhere has already discovered FTL and is having a gay old time batting around the local starscapes. BUT such a drive is, in reality, probably going to be nothing we can even imagine right now. We're the little ones in onsies who wade out into the surf a full 12 to 18 inches before running back to Mom. NOTHING we're doing right now is the least bit useful, in hard cold fact, as even that first hint of FTL drives.
 
"A Spectacular Example of Precognitive Remote Viewing

(Carried out by Joe McMoneagle in September 1979)

Mission: Spy satellite photographs had shown suspicious heavy construction activity around a building located 100 meters from a large body of water, somewhere in northern Russia. The National Security Council (NSC) wanted to know what was going on there.

Assignment: Joe was given only the geographical coordinates (latitude and longitude) and asked to describe the site.

When Joe said it was a “cold location, near a body of water with large buildings and smoke stacks etc”, NSC was satisfied that he was probably at the right site. They then showed him the satellite photograph in their possession and asked him to find out what was going on inside the building. Joe said, “The interior is very large and noisy; active working area, full of scaffolding, girders and blue flashes probably arc welding.” He took a break and continued in another session, ”Probably a huge submarine under construction (Draws a sketch with dimensions, etc). A long flat deck; strangely angled missile tubes, about 18 to 20 in number. A new type of mechanism to drive the submarine (nuclear powered?); a double hull.”

At this point the NSC representatives figured that Joe must be wrong because if what he said was true, it would be the world’s biggest submarine! No US intelligence agency had ever heard of it. The US did not possess a submarine this large. Besides, who would build a submarine in a building so far from water? How would they launch it? But since Joe had acquired the reputation of being very accurate, NSC asked him to ‘view the future’ and find out when it would be launched!

Joe ‘scanned the future month by month’ and said the Russians would blast a channel to connect the building with the body of water and launch the submarine in four months.

Confirmation : In January 1980, exactly as predicted by Joe, spy satellite pictures confirmed the launching of the world’s biggest submarine after construction of an artificial channel connecting the building to the water. It had 20 missile tubes, a large flat deck etc exactly as described by Joe!"-----
 
Well, there were some people who were ‘remote viewing’ Area 51, but luckily Area 51 was blocking this ‘viewing’ with some kind of shield technology which was reversed engineered from UFOs.
Reverse engineering, pfft! A large tinfoil cap would do the job.
 
Pretty sure the CIA in alliance with Stanford University wouldn't have devoted 23 years to something that didn't work. I mean how long does it take to realize that something is just "woo"? 6 months maybe?
From the Stargate Project wiki entry:

The Stargate Project was terminated and declassified in 1995 after a CIA report concluded that it was never useful in any intelligence operation. Information provided by the program was vague and included irrelevant and erroneous data, and there were suspicions of inter-judge reliability. The program was featured in the 2004 book and 2009 film, both titled The Men Who Stare at Goats...
 
From the Stargate Project wiki entry:

The Stargate Project was terminated and declassified in 1995 after a CIA report concluded that it was never useful in any intelligence operation. Information provided by the program was vague and included irrelevant and erroneous data, and there were suspicions of inter-judge reliability. The program was featured in the 2004 book and 2009 film, both titled The Men Who Stare at Goats...
Or so says the CIA. Right after the fall of the Soviet Union. Funny how it took them 23 years to realize that!

"Remote Viewing performance across all three labs shows a remarkable consistency over many years: about 75% of what could be objectively evaluated proved to be correct. The evidence to back that statement comes in two parts, protocols in which a statistical outcome is the measure, and application protocols where probability statistics are only one aspect of assessment. Typically, in an archaeological project, the latter would include concept-by-concept analyses of such things as location, surface geography, subsurface or marine descriptive concepts, as well as detailed descriptions of conditions and objects found at the located site."--- https://psi-encyclopedia.spr.ac.uk/articles/remote-viewing
 
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. BUT such a drive is, in reality, probably going to be nothing we can even imagine right now. We're the little ones in onsies who wade out into the surf a full 12 to 18 inches before running back to Mom. NOTHING we're doing right now is the least bit useful, in hard cold fact, as even that first hint of FTL drives.
Could be, though one can't rule out the possibility of an Alcubierre drive.

 
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