Quote or Insult?
- Thread starter Gustav
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I think bars provide a good litmus test arena. Walk around, make quotation marks in the air, and attribute the 'quote' to yourself or others and my guess is some of the larger patrons will use their best pedagogy to explain that quoting and insulting are not mutually exclusive. If you are lucky they will explain, as you lie their bleeding and highly receptive to new knowledge, that this is a false dilemma,
"you short-legged pedophile."
-Pineal.
(Though I have not voted - since I cannot vote what I believe - that was someone else.)
"you short-legged pedophile."
-Pineal.
(Though I have not voted - since I cannot vote what I believe - that was someone else.)
I would vote "joke" if that was an option. When I read that post, I assumed Gustav was just trying to use a humorous manner to tell a new member to take it easy on starting threads for the sake of starting threads.
well it turns out this bar was hosting a quotation forum that night.
why would an entry that clearly abides by convention...the bracketing/ascription is present.......be taken out of context?
let me try again with the same example
this is something i had said on many occasions to many individuals...
"you are a fucking idiot"
-gustav
now
you may infer that it is directed at you but by what rationale do you do so?
i mean, it is technically a quote, is it not? why is this fact deemed irrelevant?
will i be banned again by james for this?
James R said:
Now, these have mighty potential for insult:
Because Nobody has exhibited a trend of posting stupid content, many people are going to look at his new posts under the context of "what stupid thing am I going to read now.". Your quote was probably interpreted under that context, but did you honestly not realize that would probably be the case as you wrote that post?
superstring01
Moderator
Can I vote both? I sorta feel like you were trying to make a somewhat insulting point, and I realize you may have been quoting yourself. I mean, you weren't exactly being Mr. Niceguy.
~String
i thought it quite funny and it was cause for a rubber neck . The first impulse was as an insult then I realized it as a quote and then I laughed out loud .
Love it Love It love it . I also thought some mod might ban Gussy . Or I really thought sense I already new Gus was banned before I saw it . That must be what got Gussy Banned .
To funny
Love it Love It love it . I also thought some mod might ban Gussy . Or I really thought sense I already new Gus was banned before I saw it . That must be what got Gussy Banned .
To funny
The remark is certainly in quotation marks on a thread that is soliciting quotations.
The timing and placement of the remark, (immediately after the O.P.) and the implicit suggestion that it is attributable to Gustav, did leave me with the impression that the remark was one that bore two meanings.
Perhaps the remark would have been better attributed to 'Anonymous' in which case it would be clearly defensible as a quote.
The timing and placement of the remark, (immediately after the O.P.) and the implicit suggestion that it is attributable to Gustav, did leave me with the impression that the remark was one that bore two meanings.
Perhaps the remark would have been better attributed to 'Anonymous' in which case it would be clearly defensible as a quote.
scheherazade said:
so in order to infer the insult interpretation, would you be editing the post?
for instance, would one be removing the bracketing/ascription so it appears like ....
you are a fucking idiot
...that?
echoing sam... are self quotes not allowed?
would you two also reword and do a temporal displacement on the quote? make the past, the present?
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Without quotation marks, the remark is an insult.
Within quotation marks, the remark is a quotation that presents as an insulting self quote.
It is the first post in response to the O.P. and uses a pronoun, thereby conveying insult to the O.P.
Were it to come as a later post, the remark could still be perceived as insulting, yet a less personally directed insult.
Signal makes the case quite clearly that other responses also have the potential to be interpreted as insults.