Question For Darwinists

OilIsMastery said:
Darwinists and other religious types claim that the Earth is ~4.5 billion years old and that life began ~3.8 billion years ago (Schidlowski 1988): http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v333/n6171/abs/333313a0.html

This means that there was only 700 million years available for the spontaneous appearance of life. "Life, it seems, did not wait for blind chance to roll the dice but erupted at the first available instant, leaving Darwinists with no time at all for their probabilistic processes." (Milton 1992).
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I prefer more recent citations.
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1664682
cites and confirms (Schidlowski 1988),

700 million years seems like a long time for a species that can have 3 generations per hour. Why is this a problem for bacteria and pre-cellular replicators?

I prefer honest citations. I believe what you attribute to Milton, is the work of Dr .V.J.M. de Silva http://www.dailynews.lk/2007/07/12/fea02.asp
Casey Luskin then copied the quote: http://www.evolutionnews.org/2007/07/intelligent_design_promoted_to.html
And then was called to task for his lunacy http://scienceblogs.com/bushwells/2007/07/the_dis_collective_colon_erupt.php
 
OilIsMastery said:
Here's the problem: 3 billion year old cyanobacteria is exactly the same as cyanobacteria today. What evolution?
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1: source?
2: Evolution doesn't forbid organisms from remaining more or less the same for long periods of time.
3: Its a very successful organism obviously.
 
James R said:
Which religious forces control science today?
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I'll give you another example since you're a fundamentalist who accepts the dogma of the bishops on the above issues. In 1959, 98% of the medical community thought that a human beings eyes would explode in outerspace due to zero G. Those are the religious forces which control science. They are called dogmatists or fundamentalists. They don't need observation because they have religion.
 
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The logic is as follows: scientists have made mistakes in the past, therefore any idea some crackpot comes up with is just as good as any theory of any scientist.

oils said:
Here's the problem: 3 billion year old cyanobacteria is exactly the same as cyanobacteria today. What evolution?
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The apparent evolution of the other cyanobactera, into eukaryotes etc.

btw: Exactly which species of modern cyans are you claiming to be exactly the same as the cyans that left fossil traces in 3 billion year old rock? Most of the modern ones are well adapted to oxygenated air, for example - not a likely feature of the fossil kinds.
 
Survival of the fittest is an oversimplification, remember that it is more accurately survival of the fit enough.
 
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OilIsMastery said:
The plate tectonics cult, the constant size earth cult, and biogenic petroleum origin cult, to name 3 popular religions in science.
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You have a one track mind.

OilIsMastery said:
I'll give you another example since you're a fundamentalist who accepts the dogma of the bishops on the above issues. In 1959, 98% of the medical community thought that a human beings eyes would explode in outerspace due to zero G.
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98%. Really? How interesting. Who did the poll?
 
James R said:
98%. Really? How interesting. Who did the poll?
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The 98% figure is a direct quote from Chris Kraft: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Kraft

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Why did you link to the Wikipedia article when it doesn't support your thesis? Contradicting your thesis we have:
Mae Mills Link said:
The Decision of the United Stated in 1958 to initiate a manned space flight program was based upon the confident assumption that technology could provide the life-support systems necessary for human survival in the hostile space environment.
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May Mills Link. Space Medicine In Project Mercury NASA Special Publication-4003 in the NASA History Series (1965)

Further, zero-g manevers were possible in aircraft prior to 1959. While medical experts were strongly concerned about prolonged weightlessness, there is nothing like "eyeballs exploding" as a consensus view.
Flight physicians were almost unanimous in expressing forebodings about the effect of weightlessness on man's physical and mental performance. Some feared that the body organs depended on sustained gravity and would not function if deprived of the customary gravitational force. Others worried over the combined effects of acceleration, weightlessness, and the heavy deceleration during atmospheric entry. Still other experts were concerned especially about perception and equilibrium.
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Loyd S. Swenson Jr., James M. Grimwood, and Charles C. Alexander. This New Ocean: A History of Project Mercury NASA Special Publication-4201 in the NASA History Series (1989).
 
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rpenner said:
Why did you link to the Wikipedia article when it doesn't support your thesis?
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In order to show James R. who Chris Kraft is and it's not my thesis. It's a quote.

I would never use Wikipedia to support any thesis because Wikipedia shouldn't be taken seriously.

Why do you think Ham the chimpanzee and Yuri Gagarin beat Alan Shepard into space? Because the so-called "scientists" didn't believe a man could survive in space, so they sent the chimpanzee.
 
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rpenner said:
medical experts were strongly concerned about prolonged weightlessness
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That confirms my argument. Here is the Chris Kraft quote: "There was grave doubt in about 98% of the medical community that man could perform a task while flying in zero gravity. That he would have trouble seeing. That he would have trouble swallowing. That he would have trouble breathing. That he would have trouble talking. We had to prove to the medical community that man could survive in the first place and secondly that he could do a task."

Thus scientists believed on account of religion that man could not survive in space and they sent the chimpanzee instead.

The exploding eyeball quote is from John Glenn.
 
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