spidergoat
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Nonsense, you get buy these legitimately at your local grow supply store. And yes, they do contain almost the proper spectrum (they are getting better).
Pot Growth isn't Green
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Nonsense, you get buy these legitimately at your local grow supply store. And yes, they do contain almost the proper spectrum (they are getting better).
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It's the inherent context of the source article.
Depends on how much they're yielding. If I was growing indoor where I presently live, I could easily consume the yield between harvests.
Sounds more like you've got a thing against smoking pot. Maybe we should all get our doctors to prescribe us some Xanax or painkillers. Maybe we should all get drunk. You know, abuse legal drugs instead of use the nearest thing theologians have to the Babel fish.
You need to learn a little about the market. Pesticides are awful. Fertilizers are a difficult range to negotiate, as pretty much anything you put into the plant is going to affect its various qualities.
Seattle recently held its first cannabis farmers' market. I could easily get a card to buy; I haven't really a good place to grow, so I'll have to hold off on that for a while. But I won't get a medical card because they're easy to get, subject to abuse insofar as many who have the cards don't actually need them, and as I believe in medical marijuana, I am uneasy about undermining the prospect by defrauding the current system.
Quadraphonics said:
It's the inherent context of the source article.
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Orleander said:
Depends on how much they're yielding. If I was growing indoor where I presently live, I could easily consume the yield between harvests.
Sounds more like you've got a thing against smoking pot. Maybe we should all get our doctors to prescribe us some Xanax or painkillers. Maybe we should all get drunk. You know, abuse legal drugs instead of use the nearest thing theologians have to the Babel fish.
You need to learn a little about the market. Pesticides are awful. Fertilizers are a difficult range to negotiate, as pretty much anything you put into the plant is going to affect its various qualities.
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Me-Ki-Gal said:
Seattle recently held its first cannabis farmers' market. I could easily get a card to buy; I haven't really a good place to grow, so I'll have to hold off on that for a while. But I won't get a medical card because they're easy to get, subject to abuse insofar as many who have the cards don't actually need them, and as I believe in medical marijuana, I am uneasy about undermining the prospect by defrauding the current system.
Back in my previous life I got 3 pounds off one plant growing out doors . Big yield difference from indoor weed . The shit would knock your socks off as good as any high-breeds we got today . Yeah it was the standard to be broken and Well some of the stuff now in the weed shops is mighty close but no cigar as of yet . Man I can not believe some of the shit this days to tell you the truth . You can scrape the crystal off and smoke just that . Someone that came to watch the Band rehearse did just that . I took a puff and blew out a lung instantly . Went " What The Fuck was that "hash " ? No was the reply !
its best to just legalize all drugs and supply it at a reduced price. that way you are taking money away from drug dealers and organized crime and able to regulate the market. as long as the government can supply the drugs like they already do with alcohol and tobacco there should be no more dealers, they just cant compete, besides how many people do you know right now that drinks moonshine?
ask yourself this question, would you smoke crack if it became legal? would it be easier to obtain legal crack or illegal crack? remember you may need photo ID wen buying from your local drug dealer lol, J/k..
ask yourself this question, would you smoke crack if it became legal? would it be easier to obtain legal crack or illegal crack? remember you may need photo ID wen buying from your local drug dealer lol, J/k..
me too
i see kids streaming in and out of a dispensary and while i chuckle, i am rather disapproving too.
goddammit! stop it already!!
how many times do i have to tell you that you are one awesome cat?
LOL, total backfire - as if nobody is willing to argue that all recreational drugs should be legalized. Bring 'em on!
Yes and no... Looking at it holistically, I think it is pretty well internalized and understood that the medical pot arrangement is a legal convenience for allowing decriminalized recreational use, with at least some control and discretion. In the longer term, the desired outcome should be legalization, so anything that normalizes and entrenches the acceptance of recreational use (both in society more generally, and amongst the politicians involved) seems like a step forward - when and if they reach the point where the misuse of the medical system is seen as a problem, it's that much more likely that the response will be general decriminalization rather than a crackdown. I.e., it's maybe more important to demonstrate that lots of (recreational) marijuana users, growers and sellers are perfectly happy to comply with reasonable rules and regulations (and steer clear of the larger criminal element), that this all is politically tenable, etc., than it is to enshrine medical weed as sacred and unimpeachable.
All of that said, I don't have a card either. But that's more an artifact of my having a better, cheaper, more convenient source than the clubs anyway. If he ever moves away or retires or whatever, I'll be making a visit to the nearest quality club in short order. Although I do have some semi-legit medical grounds (migraines), so maybe the issue weighs a bit less on my conscience than it does on others'.
i thought it was about profiteering
holistically speaking of course
so do i
it is also the hardest case for a doctor to substantiate
that is, if they care to
/smirk
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Spread the word Gussy ! The future Me has C.D.s to sell . That fucking greed Bastard of the future wants a pay check . Fuck glad I am not him . Yet anyway . I couldn't do it . Get a green card . I don't know why . Public scorn probably . Like they don't know . Well some might not . You know how people love to live in denial
Below is the absorption spectrum fro Chlorophyll A, B, Beta Carotene, and some other accessory pigments.
Here are the emission spectra of some common LED's:
So, in theory, at least, you could provide any given generic plant the right frequencies using a combination of the following LED's:
430 GaN
470 GaN
625 GaAsP/GaP
660 GaAlAs
Nothing below 700nm is used by any plant.
Adding a few 525 GaN and 610 GaAsP/GaP might prove beneficial to general plant health.
The issue then becomes getting sufficient wattage per square meter to meet the requirements of an individual species of plant, and it may prove beneficial to investigate which specific accessory pigments a given plant uses, as you may be able to target those as well.
I do have one further point to add - I mentioned matching the emission spectrum of the light source to the absorption spectrum of a leaf.
While at first this might seem a difficult task, requiring expensive equipment, it is actually fairly trivial (at least, if I understand human trichromatism and oppositional colour theory well enough). If the emission spectrum of the light source, and the absorption spectum of the leaf are well matched, then the leaf should appear a shade of grey, or even black, because the spectrum of the light reflected by the leaf will be close to flat (assuming the light source you're interested in is the only light source, and you're in an (otherwise) darkened room).
While at first this might seem a difficult task, requiring expensive equipment, it is actually fairly trivial (at least, if I understand human trichromatism and oppositional colour theory well enough). If the emission spectrum of the light source, and the absorption spectum of the leaf are well matched, then the leaf should appear a shade of grey, or even black, because the spectrum of the light reflected by the leaf will be close to flat (assuming the light source you're interested in is the only light source, and you're in an (otherwise) darkened room).
Thankyou, and I'm not sure I want to ask why.
All I did was provide some generic information that might prove useful for growing outdoor plants indoors, in a more environemntally conservative manner that's as applicable to potatoes and carrots as it might be to anyhing else.
concidering you can already buy lights specifically for different purposes, for instance i have T5 lighting which is specfically high in the blue end and none in the red because i have marine fish and coral and they have developed to use only the blue end of the spectrum which is what reaches down that deep. You can also buy river plant globes, globs for the infra red, globs specific for birds (i have no idea why) ect. I would assume it shouldnt be that hard to buy globes which are specific to land plants too
i thought it was about profiteering
holistically speaking of course
That too - which presents us with yet another bizarre problem. To wit: the (medical and non) grow industry is among the fiercest opponents of marijuana legalization, exactly because they stand to lose a lot of profits if that ever comes to pass. And we're certainly never going to pass a ballot measure legalizing weed if that much of the pro-weed electorate (and the lion's share of the weed money) is dead-set against it.
Sure, but of course I wouldn't be going to the kind of "doctor" that gives two shits. I'd presumably go to the place that guarantees the in-house doctor can get you approved in less than 15 minutes, and advertizes a free gram for first-time buyers...
Not that a great deal of "legit" doctors aren't just glorified drug dealers to begin with. If you want to get high on Ambiens or muscle relaxants or anti-depressants or whatever else, there's a whole industry of "respectable" MDs working in real hospitals that will hook you up with little in the way of genuine medical justification. Heck, some of the HMOs seem to prefer to just pump people full of Paxil or whatever without even considering treatments like counselling or whatever. If you shopped around you could probably find one that would prescribe you Marinol, for that matter...
/opens fly-by-night business selling "absorbtion spectrum matched sources" that are just burned-out light bulbs. "Darkness means it's working - no light reflected off the leaves! Cuts your power bills dramatically! No refunds!"
if true, isnt it ironic that the same arguments as you are expressing here are those comming from the right in the "Hike Taxes, Hemorrhage Jobs" thread. Maybe the right wingers should be surporting drug dealers as the ultimate libitarians, exploiting people for profit but thats the goal of a great capitilist isnt it
if true, isnt it ironic that the same arguments as you are expressing here are those comming from the right in the "Hike Taxes, Hemorrhage Jobs" thread. Maybe the right wingers should be surporting drug dealers as the ultimate libitarians, exploiting people for profit but thats the goal of a great capitilist isnt it
Well, taxes are a bit different from outright criminalization, but...
The single best way to tell whether you're dealing with a genuine libertarian is whether they favor legalizing all recreational drugs. If not, you're just talking to a regular old right-wing dude who dislikes paying his taxes.
You think that will hold up in a court of S.F. Hang-Hillery lench mobs . James will get you . Telling criminals how to grow plants is a crime in some states . I don't know what ones , but I am sure we can trump up some bogus evidence .
Oh you meant potatoes. Never Mind