Roosters for ever
Registered Senior Member
So you disagree (again with authority) with the US legal system? Or are you simply trying to "get out from under" in regards to most of your other rhetoric?
Opinions on Russian, Ukraine and the West.
- Thread starter Olga
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Olga:
As usual, since you don't use the quote feature, I can't tell which parts of my post you're replying to.
China is hard to ignore. It contains about 1/7 of the world's population.
Certainly, democratic countries are not "happy" with China's record when it comes to human rights (including those of its own citizens). Nor are they happy with its increasingly belligerent military attitude to other nations.
In contrast with Russia, however, China has not - so far - started any expansionistic wars of aggression with other independent nations. That might change if China decides to invade Taiwan at some future time. Hopefully, China's leaders won't be stupid enough to go down that road. They have seen where Putin's expansionism has taken him and his nation.
Ukraine wants an end to Putin's war. The only reason it is still continuing is that Putin won't give up his personal dream of "Make Russia great again by imposing the Russian will on all its neighbours, by force if necessary".
And is Ukraine normally a net exporter of cereals, or an importer?
If you're referring to a nuclear war, nobody wins in that scenario. Again, I sincerely hope that Putin is wise enough to realise that. But there are no guarantees when you're dealing with a dictator surrounded by "yes men" who only ever tell you what they think you want to hear.
If you want to compare, look at Putin, who is similar. Putin has his comfortable palaces and country dachas and such. He enriches himself and his cronies at the expense of the Russian people, while sending them to fight in a pointless war of aggression. He is not acting in the interests of the people of Russia.
As usual, since you don't use the quote feature, I can't tell which parts of my post you're replying to.
I wonder what kinds of rallies aren't given permission. Rallies that are critical of the government, for example?
The US doesn't have any power to censor other nations. They also have a right to Freedom of Speech built right into the Constitution.
I agree that China, like Russia, also has a repressive regime that restricts the freedoms of its own citizens.
I think that the hope is, from democratic countries (which are in a minority in the world), that doing business with China and otherwise interacting with its people, might eventually help to promote social and political change in China.
China is hard to ignore. It contains about 1/7 of the world's population.
Certainly, democratic countries are not "happy" with China's record when it comes to human rights (including those of its own citizens). Nor are they happy with its increasingly belligerent military attitude to other nations.
In contrast with Russia, however, China has not - so far - started any expansionistic wars of aggression with other independent nations. That might change if China decides to invade Taiwan at some future time. Hopefully, China's leaders won't be stupid enough to go down that road. They have seen where Putin's expansionism has taken him and his nation.
Those people probably need to work out who the aggressor in the war is and who is defending their homeland. I understand how difficult it is to evaluate such things dispassionately when you only get information from one side.
Ukraine wants an end to Putin's war. The only reason it is still continuing is that Putin won't give up his personal dream of "Make Russia great again by imposing the Russian will on all its neighbours, by force if necessary".
So, out of roughly 200 nations in the world, Ukraine is number 9?
And is Ukraine normally a net exporter of cereals, or an importer?
Which has larger "land resources" - Ukraine or Europe?
Again, your words seem to confirm that you only view Ukraine as valuable if it has resources that Russia can plunder. Why is that, Olga?
I sincerely hope that you're correct that Putin is smart enough and in contact with reality enough to appreciate that starting a war with Europe would do untold damage to Russia (not to mention to Putin himself).
If you're referring to a nuclear war, nobody wins in that scenario. Again, I sincerely hope that Putin is wise enough to realise that. But there are no guarantees when you're dealing with a dictator surrounded by "yes men" who only ever tell you what they think you want to hear.
Again, you've bought into the propaganda you're fed. Europe's leaders are quite competent enough to deal with Russia, I assure you.
I'm not surprised you hold that view, given Russia's political history over the last century. It's a pessimistic view, though, and it doesn't apply to the leaders of all nations.
Actually, the current leader of America, Donald J. Trump - while cynical and calculating to the extent that his limited intelligence permits - is not primarily guided by the interests of his country. All evidence suggests that he is guided by nothing more lofty than the personal interests of one Donald J. Trump.
If you want to compare, look at Putin, who is similar. Putin has his comfortable palaces and country dachas and such. He enriches himself and his cronies at the expense of the Russian people, while sending them to fight in a pointless war of aggression. He is not acting in the interests of the people of Russia.
Actually, the US has been donating weapons to Ukraine. Many other countries have, as well.
I don't know what you're talking about.
When did the US purchase the European economy? And when did it go bankrupt? It seems like somebody is giving you very inaccurate information.
Then you should tell Putin to stop his war of aggression.
Why? What about your grandfather?
Sure. If Russia stops attacking Ukraine, they'll be quite happy to get along with their lives and leave Russia to its own devices, I'm sure. That's what they were doing before Russia invaded, after all.
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Explain. How am I doing a disservice to Ukrainians and Ukraine?
Oops. Thanks for the correction.
Yeah. It's a real pity that Putin had all the independent newspapers shut down, isn't it? And all their journalists either left the country to go somewhere safe or else ended up in a prison somewhere in Russia.
So much misinformation from brainwashed simpletons w anti rusia bs its hilarous
We ie cia overthrew legal Ukro gov in 2014 and put Zelen the comedian as prez.
Ukro neonazi murdered many thousands ruski civilians living there this is fully documented by UN
Rusians and Ukrainians have same language and are practicaly brothers
Trying to place nukes misiles in Ukr was last straw and Rusia had no choice but to put stop to it to defend their country
Our Gov seriously underestimated Rusia and their military power and it will be our downfall
Stealing many bilions $ of rusian assets here means no one will ever invest in US for fear of havin it stolen also
China comes to mind.
BTw
Watch Traveling with Russell or Sams rusian adventures
to see truth about Rusia life
We ie cia overthrew legal Ukro gov in 2014 and put Zelen the comedian as prez.
Ukro neonazi murdered many thousands ruski civilians living there this is fully documented by UN
Rusians and Ukrainians have same language and are practicaly brothers
Trying to place nukes misiles in Ukr was last straw and Rusia had no choice but to put stop to it to defend their country
Our Gov seriously underestimated Rusia and their military power and it will be our downfall
Stealing many bilions $ of rusian assets here means no one will ever invest in US for fear of havin it stolen also
China comes to mind.
BTw
Watch Traveling with Russell or Sams rusian adventures
to see truth about Rusia life
You're right.
I was talking about yuo'r media.
Please do not insult other members.
Because you're stupid.
Don't talk about things you don't understand. You've been brainwashed by propaganda.
I dont't give a fuck
Nowadays, wars are fought mainly over minds. And specifically on this site, the West has already lost this war. I came here as a big supporter of the West, and l'm leaving here as its ardent opponent. And l think l will be able to convince many thinkers in our country to accept my point of view.
Pinball1970
Valued Senior Member
We had the same in the UK, Polonium then Novichok. Be openly critical of Putin and you end up with a target on your back, no matter where you are.
Pinball1970
Valued Senior Member
Are you telling me Alexander Litvinenko was not assassinated in London?
He left a written statement.
exchemist
Valued Senior Member
More than that, analysis revealed it was Polonium 210, an α-emitter.:
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On 3 November 2006, Litvinenko (under the pseudonym of Edwin Carter) was admitted to Barnet Hospital in north London, where he was initially treated for gastroenteritis.[28][22][26] As his condition worsened, he told doctors his true identity and claimed to have been poisoned, before being transferred on 17 November to University College Hospital in central London for intensive care.[22][23][28] Subsequently, his blood and urine samples were sent to the UK's Atomic Weapons Establishment (AWE), where they were tested for radioactive poison using gamma spectroscopy.[23] No discernible gamma rays were initially detected, but a small gamma ray spike was noticed at an energy of 803 kilo-electronvolts (keV), barely visible above the background.
The BBC reported that by coincidence another scientist, who had worked on Britain's early atomic bomb programmedecades before, happened to overhear a discussion about the small spike and recognised it as the gamma ray signal from the radioactive decay of polonium-210, which was a critical component of early nuclear bombs. On the evening of 22 November, shortly before his death, his doctors were informed the poison was likely to be polonium-210. Further tests on a larger urine sample using spectroscopy designed to detect alpha particles confirmed the result the following day.[23]
Unlike some other sources of radiation, polonium-210 emits very little gamma radiation, but large amounts of alpha particles which are relatively difficult to detect with common radiation detectors such as Geiger counters. This explained why tests conducted by doctors and Scotland Yard at the hospital with Geiger counters were negative. Both gamma rays and alpha particles are classified as ionizing radiation, which can cause radiation damage. An alpha-emitting substance can cause significant damage only if ingested or inhaled, acting on living cells like a short-range weapon.[29] Hours before his death, Litvinenko was tested for alpha-emitters using special equipment.[29
Shortly after his death, the UK's Health Protection Agency (HPA) stated that tests had established Litvinenko had significant amounts of the radionuclide polonium-210 (210Po) in his body, and that those who had contact with Litvinenko may also have been exposed to radiation.[30][31] Mario Scaramella, who had eaten with Litvinenko at Itsu, reported that doctors had told him the body had five times the lethal dose of polonium-210.
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From:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexander_Litvinenko
So there is no doubt whatsoever that was poisoned by a substance only available from a state nuclear programme.
I don't believe you anymore. Almost all of you are Russophobes here, and you can come up with anything.
You probably did it yourself to denigrate the Russians. Because you hate everything Russian.
Pinball1970
Valued Senior Member
He left a testimony while he dying from his hospital bed and is buried in Highgate cemetery.
Russia did not deny that he was dead, he was 44.