Opinions on Russian, Ukraine and the West.

[Pinball1970]

У нас много хохлов гастарбайтеров работало в своё время. У меня тоже они работали, на стройках. Хитрые и воровитые, как на подбор. Я вообще всегда была против их присоединения к нам. Если честно, я их недолюбливаю, есть такой грех. Но говорить, что Москва - это дыра, может только очень предвзятый человек. Вы были в Москве, Пин? А в Санкт-Петербурге, нашей северной столице?

There is no war on here Olga, only opinions, arguments and sometimes insults.
No one ever gets hurt though.

 

[Olga]

There is no war on here Olga, only opinions, arguments and sometimes insults.
No one ever gets hurt though.

Здесь есть некая предвзятость, Пин.

 

[Olga]

Towards Brits? I know it's horrific. We get by.

Вам проще, вас тут несколько, целая команда. А я одна, мою спину никто не прикрывает.

 

[Pinball1970]

Вам проще, вас тут несколько, целая команда. А я одна, мою спину никто не прикрывает.

No you're not. Like I said, if it was like that James would ban you and everyone would demand a ban.
It isn't like that.

 

[(Q)]

Yes, it would look horrific if you didn't know the background. You bombed and killed the civilian population of Donbas for eight years, and no one in the world except Russia cared. Even Europe, the "conscience of the world," slept soundly. Although the whole world saw footage from Odessa, where people were burned alive in the Trade Union Building, and those who tried to escape by jumping out of windows were finished off on the ground with iron bars by fascist thugs. I also remember footage of a murdered woman who was eight months pregnant, who was abused and then also killed that day. These murdered and tortured people committed no crime; they simply wanted to speak their native language. (For those who don’t know, I’ll now give you a little excursion into history. Historically, Ukraine never existed as a separate state until Lenin and the Bolsheviks created it artificially. These were Russian lands, and most of the inhabitants living in these lands spoke Russian. Lenin separated these areas into a separate republic within the USSR and called it Ukraine, which translates as “outskirts”. Then, after the Second World War, Stalin annexed the western regions that were taken from Poland and Hungary to Ukraine. And Khrushchev, having no right to do so, gave the Russian island of Crimea to Ukraine. But then they gave up on it, because it was still the USSR. But western Ukraine always spoke its own Ukrainian language, while eastern Ukraine and Crimea spoke Russian. And with the collapse of the USSR, these problems came to light. Western fascist elements began to impose their rules on people from the eastern parts of Ukraine. When a candidate from the eastern regions was elected president of Ukraine, they caused riots in Kyiv, and violently The legally elected president was ousted. Donbass was outraged and rebelled against this state of affairs, and its own militias began to form. People from the eastern regions didn't want to be banned from speaking their native Russian, as the Banderites in the west wanted. They created their own government. Then they began bombing them, and this continued for eight years, until Russia sent troops into Donbass. This situation can be compared to the United States and Canada. Canada also has two official languages—English and French. And just imagine that, for whatever reason, the French portion of the population suddenly began to oppress and kill English-speaking Canadians. How would English-speaking America react? I think it would wipe out those who allowed this to happen. So, don't play the innocent. This war didn't start out of nowhere.

Your rant has plenty of disinformation and propaganda in it. Typical.

Calm down, hohol. Have you lived in Moscow and Kyiv? Tell those tales to someone else. Moscow is one of the most beautiful and well-appointed capitals in the world.

No, it's a shithole.

Compared to it, even many European capitals seem like dumps.

That would be the European cities you've never visited.

And this isn't my personal opinion, but a generally accepted fact, even among foreigners. Kyiv, like any ancient Russian city, is beautiful with its architecture and its ancient churches. The Kiev Pechersk Lavra is especially beautiful. I think we should return not only Donbas but also Kyiv to Russia.

So, you are on Putin's side. You therefore agree with the senseless slaughter of innocent people. I suspected as much.

And give the Lviv region back to Poland and Hungary. It's of no use anyway, neither economically nor culturally. And in Europe, you'll be quite useful cleaning toilets for burghers. At the same time, you'll learn European values, which hardly include torchlight processions in honor of the Nazi Bandera. I doubt Europe would appreciate that.

And even though people like you truly deserve punishment, I'm against war.

Yet, you side with Putin. Clearly, you're lying,

Because in any war, the first to suffer are the civilians who have done no harm to anyone.

Like Ukrainians, for example?

Sadists and murderers, however, can easily live to be 100 years old with impunity, as we see with the Nazi criminals who escaped punishment.

Like Putin, for example?

 

[Olga]

Your rant has plenty of disinformation and propaganda in it. Typical.

No, it's a shithole.

That would be the European cities you've never visited.

So, you are on Putin's side. You therefore agree with the senseless slaughter of innocent people. I suspected as much.

Yet, you side with Putin. Clearly, you're lying,

Like Ukrainians, for example?

Like Putin, for example?

Подкрепляй свои высеры фактами.

 

[(Q)]

Yours is already in them. And Russia is a phoenix; it will always rise, even from the ashes. We simply have strong roots, and in difficult times, we know how to mobilize and unite to defend our country, given to us by our ancestors.

Currently, you're not defending, you're murdering innocent people. That's not rising from the ashes, that's creating the ashes.

Yes, we have much to defend: Russia is larger than the US and Europe combined (for comparison, 70 UK countries could fit in Russia). Russia is the richest country in the world in terms of various natural resources. Russia is a country of strong people. Almost 200 different nationalities live in Russia. Russia cannot be defeated from the outside; many have broken their teeth trying to do so.

More propaganda. It would appear that you are here as a typical Russian Bot, spreading propaganda about Russia and how awesome you are.

Yes, we have our own internal problems associated with the Bolshevik legacy, but we will overcome them. A new generation has already grown up among us who do not bow to the West or the Soviet Union, who are not going to flee anywhere in search of a sweet life, but who love and want to develop their own country. And you have yet to meet them.

If they are anything like you, that would be wonderful never to meet them. Sick, selfish liars.

 

[(Q)]

Back up your bullshit with facts.

Says the selfish person who never does.

 

[(Q)]

As I understand you... we, Russians, also come from the Russian Empire, and we are proud of it.

Are you proud to be killing innocent people in the Ukraine?

 

[Olga]

Currently, you're not defending, you're murdering innocent people. That's not rising from the ashes, that's creating the ashes.

More propaganda. It would appear that you are here as a typical Russian Bot, spreading propaganda about Russia and how awesome you are.

If they are anything like you, that would be wonderful never to meet them. Sick, selfish liars.

Так всегда бывает с теми, кто дёргает тигра за яйца, Мартин. А потом бежит с криками: он меня покусал!!!

 

[(Q)]

This is what always happens to those who pull a tiger's balls, Martin. And then run away screaming: "He bit me!"

At least you're not denying that you're a Russian Bot here to spread propaganda.

 

[Olga]

Are you proud to be killing innocent people in the Ukraine?

Нет, мне больно это видеть. Потому что мы один народ, и мой украинский дед, сидел в одном окопе с моим русским дедом. Они вместе сломали хребет фашизму. А теперь такие как ты, провоцируют конфликты между двумя братскими народами.

 

[Olga]

At least you're not denying that you're a Russian Bot here to spread propaganda.

Я не собираюсь отвечать на твои тупые, беспочвенные выпады, Мартин.

 

[geordief]

ore propaganda. It would appear that you are here as a typical Russian Bot, spreading propaganda about Russia and how awesome you are

I don't read their posts but ,if this is true it might be a good reason for banning in itself.

(Obviously there would also be the argument that we need to know our enemies and the crap that comes out of their mouths)

 

[C C]

I don't read their posts but ,if this is true it might be a good reason for banning in itself.

(Obviously there would also be the argument that we need to know our enemies and the crap that comes out of their mouths)

There's only a fraction of activity that I'm able to keep up with, but in what I have. I haven't seen any fondness for either the Putin administration or the USSR of the past (albeit monitored Russian citizens obviously have to be dodgy about overt criticism of the former). And the majority of people are going to support and defend their own country's culture as it exists independently of particular regimes running it during _X_ time periods. I wouldn't even accuse Scorpio of being a bot, even though there's clearly a Chinese agitprop thing going on there intermittently.
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[Olga]

There's only a fraction of activity that I'm able to keep up with, but in what I have. I haven't seen any fondness for either the Putin administration or the USSR of the past (albeit monitored Russian citizens obviously have to be dodgy about overt criticism of the former). And the majority of people are going to support and defend their own country's culture as it exists independently of particular regimes running it during _X_ time periods. I wouldn't even accuse Scorpio of being a bot, even though there's clearly a Chinese agitprop thing going on there intermittently.
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Насчёт Скорпио я тоже заметила, что он как будто по методичке пишет. Одни и те же стандартные фразы.

 

[(Q)]

Together, they broke the back of fascism.

And, now you embrace the new fascism of Putin.

And now people like you provoke conflicts between two fraternal nations.

There's that fake grievance based on lies, again. YOU and your BFF, Putin are the ones not provoking conflict, but instead, wholeheartedly performing conflict of the most egregious kind. You are a liar and a fraud and you spit in our faces every time you post in Russian.

 

[(Q)]

I'm not going to respond to your stupid, baseless attacks, Martin.

Because you know they're true.

For example, if I were to create a Russian propaganda profile on this site, knowing that most folks probably don't know much about Russia, I too would use the name Olga as it exemplifies the most common of Russian names.

 

[TheVat]

We had a lot of Ukrainian migrant workers working for us back in the day. I had them working for me too, on construction sites. They were cunning and thieving, every single one of them. I was always against them joining us. Honestly, I don't like them;

No, it pains me to see this. Because we are one people, and my Ukrainian grandfather shared a trench with my Russian grandfather. Together, they broke the back of fascism. And now people like you provoke conflicts between two fraternal nations.

LMAO

 

[Olga]

Because you know they're true.

For example, if I were to create a Russian propaganda profile on this site, knowing that most folks probably don't know much about Russia, I too would use the name Olga as it exemplifies the most common of Russian names.

Ты дурак, Мартин? Ольга - это далеко не самое распространённое русское имя. И к тому же, оно труднопроизносимо для иностранцев. Ты разве не заметил, что в русском языке это имя состоит из 5 букв, тогда как в иностранном написании в нём только 4 буквы. Ты сможешь правильно произнести моё имя, Мартин?