Open Debate: Evolution.

Alejandro said:
He's on trial for that now.

Well this thread is officially hijacked. Evolution or Creation- no humans no for sure, however close scrutiny of life forms contradicts evolution.

I say human evolution is more of a fantasy than intelligent design.


See I knew I could convince you :D

BTW back to topic has anyone heard of the Wistar institute? I work on Wistar rats and came across it yesterday while looking up some stuff online...

What is the big secret about the findings of the Wistar Institute? Is it a quack site?

http://www.pathlights.com/ce_encyclopedia/20hist12.htm
 
GeoffP said:
That rats suck.

No they don't they are cho chweet; here's one of my babies

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samcdkey said:
So its debunked, what they said on the previous website?
It debunked itself in the first paragraph:

With the dawn of large main-frame computers came the data needed to disprove evolution. Wistar buried evolutionary theory. Yet the evolutionists won't admit it. Evolutionary theory is a myth. God created everything; the evidence clearly points to it. Nothing else can explain the evidence found in nature. This is science vs. evolution—a Creation-Evolution Encyclopedia, brought to you by Creation Science Facts.

This is what's known as "instantaneous self-debunking" in the scientific world.
 
samcdkey said:
I have one of the openest minds around and you are correct - this is a science forum. "creation science" and "intelligent design" are neither science nor intelligent. This statement at the bottom of your link:

Discovery Institute is a non-profit, non-partisan, public policy think tank headquartered in Seattle and dealing with national and international affairs. For more information, browse Discovery's Web site at:

is a lie. You are apparently not versed in the detection of complete bullshit. Creationists and IDists lie for a living. Their sole agenda is to open devious backdoors for xian intrusion into public policy. That's it.
 
hmm okay but I saw the name of the scientist from UC Berkeley, J Wells; which is why I was surprised.
 
samcdkey said:
hmm okay but I saw the name of the scientist from UC Berkeley, J Wells; which is why I was surprised.
Don't be. Scientists are just people too. There are good and bad, open minded and closed, critical and non-critical. Any "scientist" who supports creation "science" and/or ID is no scientist. Trust me. Research it.
 
superluminal said:
Don't be. Scientists are just people too. There are good and bad, open minded and closed, critical and non-critical. Any "scientist" who supports creation "science" and/or ID is no scientist. Trust me. Research it.


OK :D

BTW, Muslims believe in evolution too.
 
samcdkey said:
:D Thank you ( I think!)
Well, I don't really have any actual theists who are actual friends (just aquaintances) and certainly no muslim friends here in beautiful fundamentalist xian south-central PA. So, sure! Why not? :)
 
samcdkey said:
But its like I've been saying; substituting religion with Prozac does not change anything; people are inherently attracted to violence and easily misled by it.

You keep describing people as violent in nature, and then in the same breath extole the virtues of your religion as guidlines to peaceful living. Yet, you fail to acknowledge that we've been living under theist rule and theist mindset for centuries, which has over that time infiltrated every fiber of society. There is the cause of your inherent violence.

Without religion, we have the ability to reason living a life of not doing harm to others and to rationalize the benefits of coexisting peacefully with one another.
 
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