On vaccines, Covid 19 and vaccine efficacy

It's not ego, it's the understanding that none can have a better program than me. Everyone else, you included, is too one-sided to get my vote.
But you lack all understanding, and that which you say you do understand you arrogantly deny. How many other conspiracists are you sympathetic to? The final nail in the coffin of people such as yourself, is that when you are all dead, buried and forgotten about, science, vaccinations and history, will keep recording the facts that many have tried to explain to you.
 
No, you are a close-minded one who thinks he knows me, but lives in his own locked box.
No, I'm quite open minded. But hey! prove me wrong!! Show me some factual evidence that vaccinations have not extended the lifetimes of humanity in general. remembering that from and through the dark ages where the mortality rate from diseases and such saw the average human lifespans of 30 or 40 years of age. It's quite easy (though dishonest), to sit behind a keyboard and (thanks to science), to be able to debate/argue with someone on the other side of the world, and at the same time belittle science as you seem to be doing, in favour of conspiracy nonsense we see so much of on facebook and social media in general. Considering of course that the lifespan today is close to 80. And us two old bastards have exceeded that, if what you claim is true.
 
An answer from one who hasn't investigated.
Oh I did quite a bit of investigating. My wife's a doctor and was the COVID response coordinator for our local school, so we spent a lot of time watching infection rates, mask efficacy, and Ro vs the change in Re.

Actually you couldn't' always get it even with a scrip during covid

I knew it!!!

You could always get it with a prescription. Some doctors were hesitant to give out those prescriptions, though, because if someone took Ivermectin and died of COVID, their family could sue for malpractice.

If the government or powerful organizations want it to happen, it does. The black programs of both make sure of that.

What does "black programs" have to do with anything?

I think you've watched too many spy movies.

Denial of patents along with speeches by mainstream stooges inhibit any kind of further funding.

?? How many patents have you gotten, and how many have been denied? Did your research end as a result? Do you think patents have anything to do with continuing research, or that researchers wait for a patent issuance before doing more research? Do you know how patents work to begin with?

I have a feeling you are simply repeating what someone on some Youtube channel told you.
 
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But you lack all understanding, and that which you say you do understand you arrogantly deny. How many other conspiracists are you sympathetic to? The final nail in the coffin of people such as yourself, is that when you are all dead, buried and forgotten about, science, vaccinations and history, will keep recording the facts that many have tried to explain to you.
You lack any understanding at all, seeming to be an absolute one-sider. No conspiracies just reality, which apparently escapes you.

The last nail taken out of the coffin of this life, will bring me great joy and thanksgiving to be released from a reality that contains the likes of you.
 
No, I'm quite open minded. But hey! prove me wrong!! Show me some factual evidence that vaccinations have not extended the lifetimes of humanity in general. remembering that from and through the dark ages where the mortality rate from diseases and such saw the average human lifespans of 30 or 40 years of age. It's quite easy (though dishonest), to sit behind a keyboard and (thanks to science), to be able to debate/argue with someone on the other side of the world, and at the same time belittle science as you seem to be doing, in favour of conspiracy nonsense we see so much of on facebook and social media in general. Considering of course that the lifespan today is close to 80. And us two old bastards have exceeded that, if what you claim is true.
You only say your open-minded which you disprove at every post.

I am not belittling science. Just those who can't see beyond their little boxes.

I don't favor conspiracies theories just reality.

As for the bolded phrase, only a real sick a-hole would try such a back-handed way to call me a liar.
 
You only say your open-minded which you disprove at every post.
No, my contributions here define my open mindedness in accepting the evidence no matter which way that goes. I have yet to see any evidence from you supporting your beliefs and claims. end of story.
I am not belittling science. Just those who can't see beyond their little boxes.
. You are belittling scientists as well. My apologies for failing to mention that.
I don't favor conspiracies theories just reality.
Your posts here convey like-minded conspiracy dialogue.
As for the bolded phrase, only a real sick a-hole would try such a back-handed way to call me a liar.

Is this what you take offence at? "Considering of course that the lifespan today is close to 80. And us two old bastards have exceeded that, if what you claim is true" (1) You did mention you were older then my 81 years. (2) The term "old bastard" in Australia is often used as a term of endearment. (3) Yes, I do doubt your claim due to the accumulation of much of the beliefs and claims you have made on this forum that seem to be stretching the truth.
 
You lack any understanding at all, seeming to be an absolute one-sider. No conspiracies just reality, which apparently escapes you.
Well supply some evidence supporting what is a conspiracy.
The last nail taken out of the coffin of this life, will bring me great joy and thanksgiving to be released from a reality that contains the likes of you.
:pYou need to calm down. What I say is fact. History and science will certainly record the facts of vaccinations, the elimination of certain diseases, and the obvious longer lifespans of humanity. And sorry to say matey, once you're in that coffin, that's it! the end! finito! We have no evidence of any life after death. But hey! you cling to your comfy reassuring belief.

“I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it”. Mark Twain:​

 
Well supply some evidence supporting what is a conspiracy.

:pYou need to calm down. What I say is fact. History and science will certainly record the facts of vaccinations, the elimination of certain diseases, and the obvious longer lifespans of humanity. And sorry to say matey, once you're in that coffin, that's it! the end! finito! We have no evidence of any life after death. But hey! you cling to your comfy reassuring belief.

“I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it”. Mark Twain:​

Stupid bravado.
 
Stupid bravado.
You got any evidence to the contrary? In English of course, but I suggest you will come back with your Russian being the fraudster that you are. In any case, some education for you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Twain Just a quick question Olga, (if that is your name) why are you so racist against western nations? I once worked with this bloke probably 6ft tall, great sense of humour, and a great naturalised Australian. I was a fitter/machinist/welder, and he was my Trades Assistant. He later progressed through some of our TAFE (Technical And Further education) course we have in Australia, and became a Boilermaker. Loved a VB, loved Australia and obviously the complete diametrically opposite of yourself. Try and do better, OK?
 
You got any evidence to the contrary? In English of course, but I suggest you will come back with your Russian being the fraudster that you are. In any case, some education for you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Twain Just a quick question Olga, (if that is your name) why are you so racist against western nations? I once worked with this bloke probably 6ft tall, great sense of humour, and a great naturalised Australian. I was a fitter/machinist/welder, and he was my Trades Assistant. He later progressed through some of our TAFE (Technical And Further education) course we have in Australia, and became a Boilermaker. Loved a VB, loved Australia and obviously the complete diametrically opposite of yourself. Try and do better, OK?
Probably, the reason for his kind attitude towards you was that his physical development was much ahead of his mental development.
 
Probably, the reason for his kind attitude towards you was that his physical development was much ahead of his mental development.
No, unlike you, he was a nice reasonable, happy mentally stable bloke, who got on well with everyone. Unlike yourself. You havn't answered my question. Why are you so racist against western nations? And what sort of vaccination programs do you have in your obviously backward country?
 
No, unlike you, he was a nice reasonable, happy mentally stable bloke, who got on well with everyone. Unlike yourself. You havn't answered my question. Why are you so racist against western nations? And what sort of vaccination programs do you have in your obviously backward country?
Nice guys like you described won't go to your "ass in the world". They're fine at home.
 
Nice guys like you described won't go to your "ass in the world". They're fine at home.
That's OK with me. I don't think much of your dictatorship and country either. Again, why are you so racist? What evidence do you have that points to vaccinations being harmful.
 
Because you did everything to make me hate your Western mentality. And compared to your West, we have a Paradise on earth here.
 
Because you did everything to make me hate your Western mentality. And compared to your West, we have a Paradise on earth here.
Ahh, yes, western mentality!! freedom of elections, freedom of speech, freedom of the Internet and web, etc. that's why countries like Australia are always up near the top of polls of the best countries in the world. Speaking of that, have never ever seen Russia in the top 30!!! I understand that if you were to reveal your true thoughts, you would probably be murdered by accident, or just disappear! But again, on the topic, what evidence do you have that vaccines are harmful. Or are you going to keep on with your side tracking nonsense to avoid answering the question. Because if you keep up with your refusal to answer and supply evidence, and carry on with your personal nonsense, then you will be reported.
 
I don't give a shit about your ratings. It's your propaganda that brainwashed you. Unlike Russia, your Australia has not done anything good for the world.

Will you report me? So you're also a snitch , just like all of you there. I don't give a damn about you, snitch.
 
We have a thread for Russia, Ukraine stuff. This is for vaccines although I do not think I will be getting anything sensible out of WOW anytime soon.
 
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