Nothing can travel faster than the luminal speed?

[Russ_Watters]

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So does this mean you've given-up on your ignorant anti-relativity tirade? Should we get this thread moved again, to the UFOs section?

 

[krash661]

i suggest understanding warp, i also suggest understand light speed and warp within earths atmosphere. and the energies involved. i also suggest understanding expansion and relative speed comparison.
it will be easier and more effective if this is achieved.

Explain what you mean! Or explain what exactly is wrong with my explanation. Don't just proclaim it. That's a cop-out.

it's not a cop out, i do not feel like sitting here typing out big parts of lessons on these subjects, when you should know already. especially after claiming something is not correct. so in order to avoid that, it's easier for you to show me what you understand, then we can go from there. but if i have to give lessons, which i should not, since your're supposedly one of the knowledgeable ones,especially after your incorrect comment, it's not going to happen.
so i'm requesting for you to show me, some kind of understanding first.

 

[krash661]

That's correct. But the distance between us and them is growing at faster than c, yet we can still see them.

" i also suggest understanding expansion and relative speed comparison. "

 

[Russ_Watters]

" i also suggest understanding expansion and relative speed comparison. "

[shrug] I do understand it. Sorry you don't.

it's not a cop out, i do not feel like sitting here typing out big parts of lessons on these subjects, when you should know already. but if i have to give lessons, which i should not, since your're supposedly one of the knowledgeable ones,especially after your incorrect comment, it's not going to happen.

Fair enough - it's a free internet and you can declare yourself correct and then run if you want. But you aren't likely to get anyone to believe what you say if you won't explain yourself even a little bit. You can't just declare yourself right without providing a real explanation if you want people to believe you. That just isn't how it works.

especially after claiming something is not correct. so in order to avoid that, it's easier for you to show me what you understand, then we can go from there. so i'm requesting for you to show me, some kind of understanding first.

I did. I outlined a specific scenario where you would see the light reflecting off of a spaceship traveling faster than c and another one where you'd see the light from the engines. You didn't respond to either of them.

Something else to consider: saying that you can't see something that is traveling faster than c is similarly wrong to saying you can't hear something traveling faster than the speed of sound.

 

[krash661]

[shrug] I do understand it. Sorry you don't.

Fair enough - it's a free internet and you can declare yourself correct and then run if you want. But you aren't likely to get anyone to believe what you say if you won't explain yourself even a little bit. You can't just declare yourself right without providing a real explanation if you want people to believe you. That just isn't how it works.

I did. I outlined a specific scenario where you would see the light reflecting off of a spaceship traveling faster than c and another one where you'd see the light from the engines. You didn't respond to either of them.

Something else to consider: saying that you can't see somethign that is traveling faster than c is similarly wrong to saying you can't hear something traveling faster than the speed of sound.

for me, it's not about " anyone to believe me ". it's about what's correct and what's not. i do not care who believes me, it's meaningless to anything anyways.
this is how it is. it's that simple. again, if warp, or wrap in the atmosphere was understood, or achieving light speed within the atmosphere was understood, you wouldn't be saying " you did ". you would also realize that everything you stated, the scenario would be irrelevant. it's obvious you do not grasp the rates and distances of these rates or how fast it occurs.

you won't explain yourself even a little bit.

but i did explain, just a little bit. what i stated should give you the insight, it's that simple.

But the distance between us and them is growing at faster than c, yet we can still see them.

[shrug] I do understand it. Sorry you don't.

yes, it's so obvious how well you do understand (shrugs)

expansion and relative speed comparison

edit- and i have not even mentioned the sonic booms that would occur.