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Wizard of Whatever said:
Possibly Yashua, which translates to Joshua in English, but also to Isa without the Hebrew vowels.

There are some who say that the name comes from a Greek reference to son of Zeus.
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Yes the Arabic name Isa or Issa is Jesus/Joshua. I knew an Issa when I worked in Dubai in the 1980s.
 
davewhite04 said:
There's a lot more than one book. Tanakh, Torah, Old testament, New testament, Quran, Bhagavad Gita... the religious texts, then mountains of books on the subject. You seem ignorant, with the usual disdain for Christianity.
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Google Ai
No Christian denominations in the US, or elsewhere, formally read from the Quran as part of their worship or core religious practice. While individual Christians may read the Quran for personal enrichment, interfaith dialogue, or academic study, it's not a standard practice within any Christian church.
 
James R said:
Would you similarly regard it as a coward's fashion to fail to directly respond to any my posts that directly addressed your concerns, above?
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True, I'm finding that out as we speak actually. I know you're not a coward James, even if you were I wouldn't mind.
 
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James R said:
Most of the traffic we get from religious folks here tends to be from the ones who aren't good thinkers. It more tends to be people who hold dogmatic beliefs and who come here to try to proselytise to the atheists, or - in some cases - with the specific intent of arguing with atheists in bad faith.

The good religious thinkers have mostly made their peace with science. Rather than seeing it an enemy that must be fought and destroyed because it is in conflict with their religious revelation, they see it as just one more aspect that reflects the majesty of their god(s). Those people, of course, have had to make some concessions. They can't, for instance, insist that their holy books are literally 100% true, or pretend that they are science texts as well as religious ones. But most of them see this is a reasonable concession. One doesn't have to stop believing in God just because one accepts that the bible was written by men, for instance.

The fundamentalists, of course, will make no such concession. But none of them value critical thinking or evidence, when it comes to their religions.
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When I was younger I had different ideas regarding science and faith, I thought they were in bed together, as time has went on I've learnt that they are mutually exclusive. Science will never learn religion to get scientific answers and vice versa. No wonder there's heated debates to put it lightly and it's normally a theist getting mauled of a group of scientists! I suppose the theists who hang around are the theists that don't mix the two.
 
Wizard of Whatever said:
If he existed, that's for sure it wasn't his name. Probably, if he existed, his real name is unknown.
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I don't think his name matters, whoever the hell made up the words if Jesus didn't is a prophet at least, even more. Love thy neighbour? Roman times, and hated by the his own people. Revolutionary.
 
RainbowSingularity said:
Google Ai
No Christian denominations in the US, or elsewhere, formally read from the Quran as part of their worship or core religious practice. While individual Christians may read the Quran for personal enrichment, interfaith dialogue, or academic study, it's not a standard practice within any Christian church.
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I have seen Eastern thinkers, Jews and Muslims on sciforums.
 
davewhite04 said:
There's a lot more than one book. Tanakh, Torah, Old testament, New testament, Quran, Bhagavad Gita... the religious texts, then mountains of books on the subject. You seem ignorant, with the usual disdain for Christianity.
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The stories from the three western faiths all came essentially from Babylonian, Accadian, and Sumerian sources, and each other.
 
davewhite04 said:
... it's normally a theist getting mauled of a group of scientists!
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Does this happen a lot?

A better question: is there anything preceding the "group maulings" that might have precipitated them? Say, something like a claim that evolution is fake, or God made Adam from a handful of clay? Or do these maulings just happen spontaneously?


"It's normally a poor guy wearing pantyhose on his head in a jewelery shop getting mauled by a group of police officers! Poor guy!" ;)
 
DaveC426913 said:
Does this happen a lot?

A better question: is there anything preceding the "group maulings" that might have precipitated them? Say, something like a claim that evolution is fake, or God made Adam from a handful of clay? Or do these maulings just happen spontaneously?


"It's normally a poor guy wearing pantyhose on his head in a jewelery shop getting mauled by a group of police officers! Poor guy!" ;)
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What I have noticed since I registered is atheists/theists at each others throats, once the theist knows they're getting no where or talking nonsense, both sides, the theist is the first to leave, in my experience good riddance to most of them.
 
davewhite04 said:
There's a lot more than one book. Tanakh, Torah, Old testament, New testament, Quran, Bhagavad Gita... the religious texts, then mountains of books on the subject. You seem ignorant, with the usual disdain for Christianity.
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you have not produced any evidence to back up your claim
 
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