No foods no drinks for 8 months, is this possible?

kira said:
I've just watched this documentary about Buddha boy. The boy hasn't eaten or drank anything for 8 months while meditating. One scientist there said he is in hibernating state. Is this possible??
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No, it's not possible.

There's some fraud afoot, and the TV crew was obviously duped.

Some other people who have claimed to be able to survive on "sunlight alone" or "fresh air" have been tested under controlled conditions (by James Randi and others) and have failed the tests. Testing is easy - just lock them in a room (with sunlight, if they say that's what they need, of course) and make sure before you do it that they don't have any concealed food or fluid sources. Then wait until they get thirsty and hungry.

The ethical issues of these kinds of tests are somewhat problematic, however. Some people may really believe they can survive without food or drink, and endanger their own lives if they undergo a real test of their claims.

In the case you mention, the most likely explanation is that the boy had some kind of fluid source concealed on his body.
 
kira said:
I've just watched this documentary about Buddha boy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v29clGMWU84

the boy hasn't eaten or drank anything for 8 months while meditating. One scientist there said he is in hibernating state. Is this possible??

p.s.: sorry if this is in the wrong section, I am actually more concern with the scientifical explanation, but since this relates with meditation and buddhism, perhaps I should put it here.
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Generally these things are classified as yogic perfections. Interestingly enough, they are not considered intrinsically spiritual (since there are references to great atheists being quite expert at them), but rather, inherently material since it involves merely altering the subtle aspect of one's gross material body (as opposed to warranting an entire paradigm shift in one's attitude towards one's self).

Regardless whether this a bonafide example or not, of course it is possible since even bears and certain aquatics can enter into inert states for incredibly long periods of time.
If this was some sort of sci-fi influenced thread about whether humans could one day (by the strength of scientific endeavour) come to acquire the abilities to hibernate (and thus travel many light years in cryogenic suspension ... only for the main character - and an incredibly beautiful female escort - to be suddenly broken out of it due to a malfunctioning computer and save the human race from a malignant alien invasion ... sorry getting ahead of myself) like say lungfish, frogs or bears, you would have reams of people coming in to say how it could be possible.
 
kira said:
I've just watched this documentary about Buddha boy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v29clGMWU84

the boy hasn't eaten or drank anything for 8 months while meditating. One scientist there said he is in hibernating state. Is this possible??

p.s.: sorry if this is in the wrong section, I am actually more concern with the scientifical explanation, but since this relates with meditation and buddhism, perhaps I should put it here.
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I don't know why, but I find such things boring.
 
What happened to human beings? We used to fool each other very easily, but nowadays we no longer trust each other; I mean some people even used to convince other fellow humans for afterlife, and everybody used to believe them.

If this poor kid claiming that he stayed alive without food and water for eight months, and his family is making some money out of him, just say "OK, you're right"; these tricks are dying traditions of old times, at least keep some samples...
 
In my country (and I guess in many other places in the world), people who do meditation AND martial arts can break woods, bricks, steel plates, etc with empty hands. They can absorb energy from surrounding and turning it into powerful inner energy. Here are examples of demonstration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29_p9PWOTio&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhjgcvaZMsI

You know, like in kung-fu :p, those people are strong. I've seen in live and colour how people break ice blocks with empty hands. Don't you think such stuffs are possible?
 
Funnily enough I used to break wood and tiles with my bare hands, even before I formally studied any martial arts. It's more about concentrating correctly than "absorbing energy".
That tends to be a load of old tosh used to impress and mystify the gullible.
 
kira said:
I've just watched this documentary about Buddha boy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v29clGMWU84

the boy hasn't eaten or drank anything for 8 months while meditating. One scientist there said he is in hibernating state. Is this possible??

p.s.: sorry if this is in the wrong section, I am actually more concern with the scientifical explanation, but since this relates with meditation and buddhism, perhaps I should put it here.
spidergoat said:
Nope. India is full of religious frauds, it's an industry.
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Agree.
 
lightgigantic said:
Regardless whether this a bonafide example or not, of course it is possible since even bears and certain aquatics can enter into inert states for incredibly long periods of time.
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So you think that because bears can hibernate, human beings can too, do you?
 
James R said:
So you think that because bears can hibernate, human beings can too, do you?
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Actually I was arguing more from the point " ... human beings can possibly too." ... and as a further point, this has (or perhaps more precisely, was) achievable by yogic disciplines ... and as a further point, the yogic disciplines share a remarkable parallel to scientific achievements (since they are both about altering material conditions for advanced performance) .... and as a further point, since we have animals already capable of such feats, you can put it in the same category as swimming underwater like a fish, flying in the air like a bird, detecting things at night like a bat, etc etc ... and a further point, if this was a discussion about how it could be made possible by the strength of scientific endeavor as opposed to something traditionally associated with religion, you would have hordes of chaps coming in and citing their favorite sci-fi plot (along with the suggestion what the post dated rain cheque of empiricism is more than capable of delivering)
 
lightgigantic said:
Actually I was arguing more from the point " ... human beings can possibly too." ... and as a further point, this has (or perhaps more precisely, was) achievable by yogic disciplines ...
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According to rumour and folk tales, I assume. Like Moses living 900 years or a house made of gingerbread.

... and as a further point, since we have animals already capable of such feats, you can put it in the same category as swimming underwater like a fish, flying in the air like a bird, detecting things at night like a bat, etc etc
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Same category eh?

You mean that humans can fly unassisted for as long as birds, hibernate for as long as bears, hold their breath for as long as whales, emit sonar squeaks just like a bat, make a cocoon and turn into a beautiful butterfly after a couple of weeks, etc. Ermm... ok, whatever you say.

... and a further point, if this was a discussion about how it could be made possible by the strength of scientific endeavor as opposed to something traditionally associated with religion, you would have hordes of chaps coming in and citing their favorite sci-fi plot (along with the suggestion what the post dated rain cheque of empiricism is more than capable of delivering)
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Suspended animation has not been achieved, Walt Disney notwithstanding.
 
James R said:
According to rumour and folk tales, I assume. Like Moses living 900 years or a house made of gingerbread.
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or like the prospect of sending rockets into outer space in 13th century medieval Europe


Same category eh?

You mean that humans can fly unassisted for as long as birds, hibernate for as long as bears, hold their breath for as long as whales, emit sonar squeaks just like a bat, make a cocoon and turn into a beautiful butterfly after a couple of weeks, etc. Ermm... ok, whatever you say.
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Unassisted?
Not at all ....



Suspended animation has not been achieved, Walt Disney notwithstanding.
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So do you want to take that a step further and say that it cannot be achieved since its not possible?
 
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Some people will say anything in order to sell over-priced shoes.
 
Dywyddyr said:
Some people will say anything in order to sell over-priced shoes.
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But the weird thing is atheists buy overpriced brand name sneakers just like theists do. Of course, unlike Nike, Adidas is not the name of a goddess. Think of my posts as koans.
 
Doreen said:
But the weird thing is atheists buy overpriced brand name sneakers just like theists do.
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We're all susceptible to BS* to one extent or another. And it is easier to become sexier/ better looking/ better lifestyled by purchasing a pair of trainers than living according to the bible (or whichever book you choose).

Of course, unlike Nike, Adidas is not the name of a goddess.
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Strangely** when someone uses the name Nike this is the first thing that comes to my mind.

Think of my posts as koans.
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Ice cream koans? Look at the link...

* Except me, of course.
** But, presumably, not surprisingly to anyone who's had more than fleeting contact with me.
 
Dywyddyr said:
We're all susceptible to BS* to one extent or another. And it is easier to become sexier/ better looking/ better lifestyled by purchasing a pair of trainers than living according to the bible (or whichever book you choose).
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'Trainers', that's right. I was going to use the word 'runners', but I wasn't sure. I didn't know one could become sexier reading the Bible - with effort it seems compared to buying the right runners. I think I will put a digital Bible in my Ipod and jog with the Christian God. I should be stunning.


Strangely** when someone uses the name Nike this is the first thing that comes to my mind.
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I noticed that when I checked on Nike, that there were missiles with that name. Odd that Nike is the goddess of victory. Think of that when you slide your foot into one.


Ice cream koans? Look at the link...
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Too much like a foreign language to me, but I like the extension of koans into other settings.
 
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