New historical understandings.

[DaveC426913]

Dinosaur DNA has not been extracted.

Nor did I say it has.

What significant changes in our understanding of the humsan past has Otzi contributed?

Well, books have been written on the subject. It's changed our ideas of what sophistication of technology, medicines and materials were available at the time.

 

[Write4U]

Minoans , could have travelled the world .

Even to North America .

From evidence of corn represented in India sculptures .

How about corn having travelled to Minoa? Just floating or from the droppings of a migrating bird.

Corn floats and if it happened to survive an ocean trip, the Minoans might well have considered it a gift of the gods. Hence the honor of placing it in their sculptures.

Ostensibly this vase has depictions of corn.

Another excellent example of a rhyton in stone is the serpentine Harvester Vase of Hagia Triada on Crete (c. 1500-1450 BCE). Once covered in gold leaf, this vessel, of which only the upper portion survives, is covered in relief scenes depicting a sowing festival with no fewer than 27 figures: an aged gentleman in a cloak, a singer with a rattle or sistrum of Egyptian origin, a choir and figures carrying hoes and bags of seed corn in their belts.

https://www.ancient.eu/article/598/minoan-stoneware/

How did the author know it was corn seeds in the bags??

Perhaps he made it up, thinking that all civilizations used corn as a staple?
Maybe he confused it with Mesoan culture?

Maize formed the Mesoamerican people's identity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maize#Origin

 

[RainbowSingularity]

Have we a historian in t'house?

I want to know from someone with a good overview of the subject how our picture of the past has changed over the past 50 years as a result of new technology , new techniques after old fashioned application.

I realize this is far too wide a question and so would be happy with a general answer along with a few specific examples.

queue god debate

 

[river]

How about corn having travelled to Minoa? Just floating or from the droppings of a migrating bird.

Corn floats and if it happened to survive an ocean trip, the Minoans might well have considered it a gift of the gods. Hence the honor of placing it in their sculptures.

Ostensibly this vase has depictions of corn.

https://www.ancient.eu/article/598/minoan-stoneware/

How did the author know it was corn seeds in the bags??

Perhaps he made it up, thinking that all civilizations used corn as a staple?
Maybe he confused it with Mesoan culture? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maize#Origin

Did it float there ?

Therefore grow it ? Did Minoans grow corn or any form of corn in their time of existence ?

 

[iceaura]

How did the author know it was corn seeds in the bags??

"Corn" probably does not mean maize, in this context. Often, it just means grain of some kind. See "John Barleycorn Must Die", the old folk song, and similar references.

 

[Write4U]

Therefore grow it ? Did Minoans grow corn or any form of corn in their time of existence ?

See your own Post #12.
Google revealed that was the claim of having been depicted on Minoan Pottery. People with pouches of seed corn. Hence my question how did the original author know there was corn seed inside the carved pottery pouches.

Another excellent example of a rhyton in stone is the serpentine Harvester Vase of Hagia Triada on Crete (c. 1500-1450 BCE). Once covered in gold leaf, this vessel, of which only the upper portion survives, is covered in relief scenes depicting a sowing festival with no fewer than 27 figures: an aged gentleman in a cloak, a singer with a rattle or sistrum of Egyptian origin, a choir and figures carrying hoes and bags of seed corn in their belts.

https://www.ancient.eu/article/598/minoan-stoneware/

The rest was my speculation on how corn might have migrated from the Americas to Minoa

 

[river]

See River Post #12
Google revealed that was the claim of having been depicted on Minoan Pottery. People with pouches of seed corn. Hence my question how did the original author know there was corn seed inside the carved pottery pouches.
https://www.ancient.eu/article/598/minoan-stoneware/

Because it was found inside

 

[Write4U]

Because it was found inside

Lol, noooo. The vases were empty. The carving depicts the pouches which the author of the article presumed to be corn. There was no evidence of corn at all. It was a carved stone vase.

 

[river]

Lol, noooo. The vases were empty. The carving depicts the pouches which the author of the article presumed to be corn. There was no evidence of corn at all. It was a carved stone vase.

So corn was not grown by the Minoans .

What pouches ? What form do the pouches represent the ?

 

[mathman]

The word "corn" was used before Columbus t mean any cereal grain
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