Neighbor: The Door of Paradise

Bb according to Q link. You did hit an E too if that was key.
Bb according to Q link. You did hit an E too if that was key.
OK, as I thought. I don’t recall the E seeming that stressful, but I was fairly psyched up - and a bit pissed, probably. The Japanese guys decided after the B flat that I could obviously sing. Suppose it’s a slightly arresting interval if one doesn’t know the tune. Actually it’s a good tune, I think. That’s probably why I remember it, from the age of 12.
 
No, I have good neighbors, friends and family. I come here because it is less boring than putting up with the normal evils of my life. Also it lets me sharpen the manifestation of my inner Self. The pain is there, physical, psychological, and mental.. The pain can make me angry, but my reaction is to try and destroy it and any cause I can perceive.
I'm here now because I have the fear. I'm in the middle of a set and playing live is the only thing that scares me in life, at the moment. Only alcohol can help but if I go over that threshold, then my coordination starts to go.
I feel I'm with school friends, some tease me a bit, some are fast friends, some are a little elusive but I would like to get to know them.
All good though.
 
Just to go even further off-piste, I was thinking over dinner this evening that I must update my will….and the phrase that sprang to mind was “The Last Train To Croaksville”. :biggrin:
The Muslim guy is reasonable enough so far, not easy to take on four or five non Muslims.
 
I'm here now because I have the fear. I'm in the middle of a set and playing live is the only thing that scares me in life, at the moment.
For me, its the first few minutes before getting on stage worrying about blowing the intro on the first song. After that, I have a shit-eating grin the rest of the show.
 
For me, its the first few minutes before getting on stage worrying about blowing the intro on the first song. After that, I have a shit-eating grin the rest of the show.
When I was a kid, my only nervousness was when I hadn't practiced enough. When I practiced enough I could play it in my sleep I was okay. Somewhat scary once was filling in for a sick bass player in a surf band. I didn't really play bass or know that many surf oldies. But it was very simple lines, like for "Pipeline," so it went okay.

There was one very nervous experience just noodling on a piano sitting on a stage in a Student Union. I was playing some jazz riffs, and looked up realized about fifty people (oh god!) had wandered in. I started dropping notes on the floor, and each time I tried to make it sound like an improvised way to change theme. Finally gave up and just played "Moondance," which is really easy and drew the themes out to ridiculous lengths, and let myself get lost in that. People sat and nodded appreciation and this group of Buddhists came up to me when I closed the keyboard and praised my playing and then very gently proselytized. Very weird, and a reminder how easy it is to fool people. The other trick I found, for keyboard jazz, is if you start to fall apart you can let some of the bassline go. Just play octaves or the tonic. No one notices on a Saturday night when they're drinking and flirting. (one time I wandered in an airport and there was a public piano, so I just sat and basically played Add9 chords, going up and down the circle of 5ths with a couple detours. People clapped and one guy in a Brooks Brothers suit dropped change onto my coat. Surreal.)
 
When I was a kid, my only nervousness was when I hadn't practiced enough. When I practiced enough I could play it in my sleep I was okay. Somewhat scary once was filling in for a sick bass player in a surf band. I didn't really play bass or know that many surf oldies. But it was very simple lines, like for "Pipeline," so it went okay.

There was one very nervous experience just noodling on a piano sitting on a stage in a Student Union. I was playing some jazz riffs, and looked up realized about fifty people (oh god!) had wandered in. I started dropping notes on the floor, and each time I tried to make it sound like an improvised way to change theme. Finally gave up and just played "Moondance," which is really easy and drew the themes out to ridiculous lengths, and let myself get lost in that. People sat and nodded appreciation and this group of Buddhists came up to me when I closed the keyboard and praised my playing and then very gently proselytized. Very weird, and a reminder how easy it is to fool people. The other trick I found, for keyboard jazz, is if you start to fall apart you can let some of the bassline go. Just play octaves or the tonic. No one notices on a Saturday night when they're drinking and flirting. (one time I wandered in an airport and there was a public piano, so I just sat and basically played Add9 chords, going up and down the circle of 5ths with a couple detours. People clapped and one guy in a Brooks Brothers suit dropped change onto my coat. Surreal.)
Didn't realise we had so many musicians on SF, we could start a band!
 
Of course you do, do you really think Muslims are treating non Muslims with respect? Like every Muslim takes those verses in context and regards an atheist like me just as moral, relevant and important as them?
Unfortunately, no. When Muslims move away from their own teachings, their downfall naturally begins. But if you look at the early centuries of Islam, you’ll find something very different. Countless non Muslims accepted Islam simply by witnessing the character and behavior of Muslims. At that time, Muslims were closely following their religion, and their conduct reflected that.

Sadly, over time this commitment became weaker. But whenever Muslims return to their scripture and live by the principles they claim to believe in, their dignity, respect, and moral strength return as well.
 
There are innumerable gods out there of which you are an unbeliever. How are you going to be sure one of them isn't real, and that you won't end up in their version of oblivion?
It is part of the test to recognize the true One among the many claims. But I believe it isn’t as difficult as it may seem. If a person uses their reason sincerely and genuinely seeks guidance, the truth becomes clear.
 
I may not know everything, but I am certain that everything in existence is the creation of Allah.
You do not need to know everything, obviously you were not created, you have a mother and father, you know how Biology works.
That is the same for every living thing on the planet, life cycles are known in exquisite detail and none of those details involve a creation.
 
But if you look at the early centuries of Islam, you’ll find something very different.
Yes and contributions to science and scholarship but that was many centuries ago.
We have to look at what Islam is today, in Islamic states and secular/ non Muslim countries like the UK.
 
You do not need to know everything, obviously you were not created, you have a mother and father, you know how Biology works.
Good, but you are assuming my existence is just a biological chain without asking why such a chain exists at all. I didn’t choose my parents, my family, my society, or my country. Such major aspects of my life being fixed without my choice cannot be explained as a blind accident. There must be a will behind this arrangement.

My parents didn’t choose their parents either, and this goes back generation after generation. So the question is not simply about Biology. Biology describes the process, but it doesn’t explain the origin, the purpose, or the selection of circumstances.

To me, the most reasonable explanation is that there is a higher, intelligent cause who sustains this entire chain and assigns each person’s place, time, and situation.

If you think this conclusion is not logical, then I would genuinely like to hear why, and how you explain this chain without appealing to intention or guidance.
That is the same for every living thing on the planet, life cycles are known in exquisite detail and none of those details involve a creation.
Life cycles are understood, yes, but that only explains how living things continue, not why they exist in the first place. The presence of ordered biological systems, genetics, and stable natural laws does not explain why these systems exist at all, why the laws of nature are so precise, or why there is life instead of nothing.

Science describes the mechanism, step by step. It cannot explain why the entire system came into existence, why it is law-governed, or why anything exists rather than nothing.

So saying that understanding life cycles removes the need for a creator mixes two different issues. Knowing the process does not answer the question of the origin or cause behind the whole system.
 
Yes and contributions to science and scholarship but that was many centuries ago.
We have to look at what Islam is today, in Islamic states and secular/ non Muslim countries like the UK.

Judging a religion by the actions of its followers is not always fair. Should we judge Judaism itself by what certain people in Israel are doing today, even when they are committing oppression and killing innocent people? Of course not. In the same way, Islam should not be judged by Muslims who fail to follow its teachings.
 
It is part of the test to recognize the true One among the many claims. But I believe it isn’t as difficult as it may seem. If a person uses their reason sincerely and genuinely seeks guidance, the truth becomes clear.
Above, I have hilight the one unversal truth in what you said.

There are eight billion people in the world.
Everyone of them has their belief, just like you.
Everyone of them believes they have recognized the truth among many claims, just like you.
Everyone of them believes it isn't as difficult as it may seem, just like you.
Everyone of them uses ther own version of reason, just like you.
Everyone of them concludes the truth for them is clear, just like you.
 
Above, I have hilight the one unversal truth in what you said.

There are eight billion people in the world.
Everyone of them has their belief, just like you.
Everyone of them believes they have recognized the truth among many claims, just like you.
Everyone of them believes it isn't as difficult as it may seem, just like you.
Everyone of them uses ther own version of reason, just like you.
Everyone of them concludes the truth for them is clear, just like you.

You raise an important point. But when we think about it carefully, it shows us something else too. With so many different beliefs in the world, it is clear that not all of them can be true at the same time. The truth of a belief does not depend on how many people accept it. A belief can be common and still be mistaken, and something rare can still be correct.

So among all these claims, only one can truly be right. And the right one must be the one that stands firmly on reason, coherence and sound evidence. That is why a sincere seeker has to examine ideas thoughtfully and follow the one that proves itself through clarity and logic.
 
Unfortunately, no. When Muslims move away from their own teachings, their downfall naturally begins.
Yet, ex-Muslims are usually pretty happy people.
But if you look at the early centuries of Islam, you’ll find something very different. Countless non Muslims accepted Islam simply by witnessing the character and behavior of Muslims. At that time, Muslims were closely following their religion, and their conduct reflected that.
Those were called the Muslim Conquests where Muslims killed hundreds of thousand of people as they expanded their empire. Many had no choice but to become Muslim or die.
Sadly, over time this commitment became weaker. But whenever Muslims return to their scripture and live by the principles they claim to believe in, their dignity, respect, and moral strength return as well.
Then, why are Muslim run societies have the most poverty, most violence, most corruption on the planet?
 
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