Name your favourite BioFuel Technology

MetaKron said:
It {hemp} isn't being used {as biofuel source} because people know what the U.S. did to Mexico, Panama, and Iraq. ...
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That is lame, nonsense. Lots of coutries, even ones that US indirectly runs, like Afganistan, make tons of much more dangerous drugs. If it were good as you say for biofuels, Brazil sure would be using it, and many others. If that lame responce is best you can do, I must conclude your support for hemp is more related to its :m: use than biofuel source.
 
MetaKron said:
Billy, you're a little bit old to be acting like that.
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Attacking one who ask for your reason, instead of giving one, is even laimer than your first non-sense. Again I ask: Why is hemp not used anywhere as a source of biofuel, if it is as good as you say?

In Brazil alone million of dollars are being spent on investigating how to most economically make biodiesel and at least 7 potential plant sources* have been considered, but hemp is not one.

Yes I am old enough to know that when millions are being spent to find the most economical source, by investigators much more qualified than you or I, this failure of hemp to be a candidate worth more investigation does imply it is not a good source.
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*current issue of Scientific American (Portuguese version, so may have appeared earlier in English) is entirely devoted to energy - these seven are listed in a table in the biodiesel section.
 
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So you want to pretend that significant bits of world history simply didn't happen, like the U.S. using extremely poisonous herbicides against farmers in Mexico, a country that we weren't at war with? Or that the U.S. does not pressure anyone who wants to grow significant amounts of hemp? Or that the oil industry is not absolutely nuts to prevent the use of alternative fuel sources that could actually replace petroleum?
 
MetaKron said:
So you want to pretend that significant bits of world history simply didn't happen, like the U.S. using extremely poisonous herbicides against farmers in Mexico, a country that we weren't at war with? Or that the U.S. does not pressure anyone who wants to grow significant amounts of hemp? Or that the oil industry is not absolutely nuts to prevent the use of alternative fuel sources that could actually replace petroleum?
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No, I don't want to do, or pretend, any of that. It is clear what I want, after asking three times:

I want you to answer the question, not attack one who ask or raise other diversion.

Again: If hemp is a good as you say, why have ALL countries (especailly, Brazil or India, which US has as friends and who are spending millions on plant research for biofuel sources) not thought hemp a source worth serious consideration compared to seven others?

PS - I do not know about India, but in addition to coffee, "there is a awful lot of :m: in Brazil" so there is no reason why it could not be grown for biofuel also if it were any good for that use.
 
Roman said:
With unsubstantiated delusion.
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I suspect his inability to understand that that is the case is due to the effects of other* use of :m: he must be enjoying. :D
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*Other than rope making that is, not "other than biofuel" as it seems to be useless for biofuel.
 
I have sent them an email for installation costs at diferrent scales and feedstocks. Will report back.

RE: Nature Article — the link given will not allow access without being a subscriber to Nature.

I posted it Before Nature started requiring a subscribing membership, here is a link to the original pdf version. The pdf version is still accessible without a membership.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v442/n7103/pdf/442624a.pdf
 
Can u believe this, sounds like MiddleEast is going bankrupt.

http://in.news.yahoo.com/061211/48/6a7f7.html

...a project to produce a complete alternative to petrol blended fuels from non edible vegetable oils like jatropha and castor. It involves thermal cracking of non-edible vegetable oil at high temperature and pressure using a silica alumina catalyst, to produce a hydrocarbon compound that can directly substitute petrol/ diesel as an energy source.....


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...a project to produce a complete alternative to petrol blended fuels from non edible vegetable oils like jatropha and castor. It involves thermal cracking of non-edible vegetable oil at high temperature and pressure using a silica alumina catalyst, to produce a hydrocarbon compound that can directly substitute petrol/ diesel as an energy source.....
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it will cost too much. just think of the complexity and energy needed to produce what is equivalent to crude oil. I don't see any way of making that cheaper than middle-eastern crude... the stuff practically pours out of the ground.

Or they could squeeze hemp seeds in a wooden press and strain it through cloth.
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your hemp ideas seem to be a bit too optimistic.
 
I think that it is unfortunate that the biodiesel bandwagon looks like it is going to go with reformulating natural oils to be more like petroleum-based diesel fuel. Maybe they have to to gain support from some chemical company, but I personally would prefer to be able to simply squeeze the fuel out, put it in the tank, and use it. That way, yes, diesel fuel grows on trees and we need very little in technology just to run our cars.

Hemp grows quite well in places where farmers don't like to plant and is more likely to grow on soils that aren't suitable for other crops. It can also be grown in forests if those forests aren't too dense. I see the oil as a basic fuel, a primary energy source that can readily be used to run all sorts of high technology, so if need be, if you have a portable generator and a stock of power tools, you can build a hi-tech village from scratch and keep the computer and entertainment center. Any readily available fuel is the difference between civilization and subsistence.
 
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