My turn for genocide

The population doesnt matter, whomeve rhas more strength tpically is the dominate power.

 

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how many people or what percentage of those people need to die for it to be a genocide?

 

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Ah, the lies of the Islamic propagandist. Whether it's scientific miracles in the Quran or all science is based on the Quran or sliced bread was discovered by Muhammad or the whole fucking universe is killing Muslims for fun, it's all the same agenda.

 

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Agreed. For example: there was no genocide.

 

How much were they allowed to own? The locals seem to have had some interesting ideas on culling their minorities with riots and pogroms when they seemed too uppity. (Hey, maybe that's why the Jews there "liked" living in tiny ghettos! At least they were safe from their "equals".)

 

If the culture and religion of Judaism remained in one place, it would also not remain fixed but change somewhat over time like most religions. Israel was not mythical, it's existence is confirmed by historical records, unlike the existence of Jesus.

 

Also true.

This is the first time Sam has used diversity as an example of something bad. A simplification, true.

 

where is my little violin?

 

I did not realise that there was a relevance of the origin of Judaism to the origin of Jews today, anymore than I see a relevance of the origin of Islam to the origin of Muslims today. Is there any historical evidence for the origin of Judaism in Palestine?

Meanwhile, what does the origin of the ancestors of the Palestinian people have to do with the argument?

According to Israeli historian Shlomo Sand, there are no "Jewish people"

Once again, what does the origin of Judaism or Jewish people [which are mutually exclusive incidents] have to do with the argument?

 

There is no evidence of an exodus, but there is archeological evidence for Judaism originating in the region of modern Israel. A Jewish religion leads to a Jewish people.

 

What is the evidence of this origin?

 

The kinds of things you find when humans live in a place- pottery, houses, bones of what they ate.

 

How does this show origin?

 

It shows a shift in culture from polytheism to a more sophisticated society made up of monotheists. A population came from outside, mixing with the locals and borrowing one of their Gods to form a new culture, which became the Jews.

 

How do you know they didn't bring it with them from outside? Doesn't Jewish mythology say the first monotheist, Abraham was born in Ur?

 

Abraham was not a monotheist, if he even existed, and the first forms of Judaism were also not monotheist. The name of the Jewish God came from existing caananite (I think) culture. This knowledge came from an archeologist that I heard in an interview, although I cannot tell you the source at the moment.

 

I'd be most interested to see a source that definitively says Abraham was not a monotheist.

And that the Jews adopted El as their God after coming to Canaan.

Could you tell me when Jews started referring to themselves as Jews?

 

I don't know, but early Jews had several Gods. God had a wife, for instance.

 

Don't you mean Judeans? Or Hebrews?

The word Jew is an innovation and has never been used to refer to followers of Judaism except in the modern languages.