invert_nexus said:
Ha!
You don't get it either, do you?
I wonder what it is that you were talking about then?
Oh well.
Let me know which part of what I was talking about that you're referring to and I'll clarify it for you.
Oh. Of course not. It doesn't matter at all how I see it. Does it?
Heh.
Not to me, no. I don't know you. I only see what is written here.
You have no clue how things are, buddy boy.
You know. I've felt bad for you. How things turned out. But, unlike you, I never focused on how you were 'publically humilated'.
Which hurt worse? That or the loss of friendship?
Which do you spend more time thinking about?
Or was it the pity?
No, I really don't know "how things are". I'm going off what I've seen here, and what I've seen in the past in both of you. It hasn't occurred to you yet that perhaps she doesn't see things the same way you do, in spite of what she tells either you
or herself? I'm sorry, Invert. She's not dishonest enough in that respect to get away with it completely. She gives too much away - and so do you. Thus either of you trying to claim it as some sort of "game" doesn't quite feel right.
You're free to believe I'm "focused" on public humiliation. It
is something which goes against what little moral code I have - when done to someone you claim as a friend. That's just me. My witnessing history repeat itself does not indicate obsession.
And you felt bad for me? Heh. How nice. But you had no need to. I'm perfectly fine, I can assure you - I always am, in the end.
Now you wouldn't be projecting your own self pity on me, would you?
Upon what do you focus, Harlequin?
Me, of course.
I wonder how honest you're being in here. If you really do desire Gendanken to come back, to come alive again, or if you're just being vengeful?
Plans within plans, Harlequin?
And within that?
But. Hey. Xev thinks you're cool again. You've got that going for you.
Xev? She seems quite miffed at me at the moment. I think she's a little annoyed that I'm here at all, which is quite understandable. So am I. My original agenda has been set aside now, and this is something else.
But I love letting off steam occasionally. I play computer games as well, that helps too. Shooting pixel people with pixel bullets and all that. Works a bitch, I'm working 12 hours a day, what with christmas and all, I'm twiddling my thumbs every night because I don't have anyone I care to talk to, and I'm having terrible problems sleeping at night because my brain just will not
shut up - and here you all are. Clay pigeons. Pow, pow, kerblam. I haven't enjoyed myself like this in quite a while.
You said it yourself - what the hell do any of you really matter?
Honesty?
I've thought about that a bit. None of us here is being entirely honest - we never are. Even when we think we're being honest, we're not.
But you know something? Speaking in terms of degree, I'm probably the most honest one here. Except maybe for Xev, and I'm not quite certain of that.
Gendanken - yes, I would like to see her as she was, on these forums where I can read in silence. That's quite honest.
Would I like her to contact me again? Yes, that too. It would be most enjoyable to tell her to fuck off again.
Understand something - fond thoughts of someone you once knew are a memory of how you saw them at the time. They have little to do with the reality of that person. Once you grasp that, nailing doors firmly shut becomes less hurtful than it otherwise might be. And I think I've just done that, four sentences above this one.
Of course it hurts. But not as much as you or anyone else would like to think. And that includes you, Xev.
It isn't Gendaken
herself who is the source of that - it is my memory of someone else.
I cared
enough about someone I didn't talk to anymore to tell her she was being a fucking bitch, and not even being perceptive about it enough to be swayed from that agenda.
In addition to all the other reasons I'm still here which I've already detailed. Quite a few of those - the list is mounting. And with every one unearthed, the importance of any one over another becomes less.
That is why you're barking up the wrong tree.
Take care to wash your feet carefully tonight - the gallery should be making quite a sloppy mess on the floor about now.
And now we move on to the fun part:
Gustav.
you are the third phase
do you not see that?
Quite clearly, some time ago. We aren't done yet.
"Game over" wasn't in reference to you. You're always the last kid in the video arcade, slipping coin after coin into the socket until it's dark, everyone else has gone home and the cleaners are giving you the evil eye.
Obsessive little trout.
you got time, ja? look into it. i aint here to hold your hand.
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go back, read and rebut. if you cannot understand the relevance of the quoted texts to your garbage, i am willing to discuss and clarify
I have the time - not the interest. Yet.
You throw a few quoted texts at me, without offering any opinion on them or thoughts of your own, and tell me it's
my responsibility to comment on them?
Nay, sir. After you.
(I'm being polite, here. I've noticed when you do the same.)
understand this.i do not concern myself with flotsam and debris. i am not one of the deluded and self-important literary wannabes that see sciforums as some social networking site.
No, you're not. You're a yapping little poodle with all the grace and charm of a ten-dollar whore, made bearable by occasional humorous posts and constant allusion that you'd have something to say if you had a reason to.
The only bewildering thing is that you have the gall to demand more of me.
"what was actually there".
well? go on. enough of the prevarications
have the goddamn courage of your convictions, maggot
your cowardly allusions and veiled references only indicate deviousness not intellect.
I already have.
The "veiled references" were probably those things I said for the ears of whoever it was I was addressing at the time. Feeling left out? Shame that.
Try not to suffer so openly.
why the fuck would the fact that people post according to thier respective personalities and abilities require special considerations? is it not fucking obvious? would it not be even more so within the context of a flame war where expected behaviours are even more rigidly defined?
Such as yours, you mean?
Tell you what. You stop being yourself, and I will. Deal?
... actually, I withdraw that offer. I can't guarantee I'll make good on it.
do you rely on obtuse references because you require validation as a deep intellect? when your pseudo literary buttbuddies buy into your crap terminology does the arrogance grow? would you still feel vindicated when it is quite probable the tards only pretend to understand? or perhaps an inability to understand simply reinforces your sense of superiority?
I don't have any "buddies" as far as I'm aware. Especially not here.
But I'll give you something anyway. I'm feeling quite generous tonight.
As far as I'm concerned, A man holding himself in a certain manner and saying pithily "and you, sir, are a sequacious coward", shortly before challenging the other to a duel at dawn has a certain... weight behind it that "yo mamma was a whore" ever will.
You think little street punks gibbering about respect and brandishing knives because that is the
only way they can enforce that demand is impressive? It isn't. But then... you're American, it seems. It shows.
I don't expect anyone to understand me, no. But I love it so very much when they do.
Love it.
you are saying nothing. your self opinion is worthless to others. i fucking decide your worth. how can you not know that? and unlike most, i do not rely on some nebulous and misguided conceptions of what was. it will be decided right here. as we fucking speak
No, you do not decide.
I do. My reaction to what others decide after that is dependant only on what
I think of
them.
And so far, your opinion has as much worth as the contents of my toilet after drinking too much of a particularly foul brew the night before.
as for your beliefs and convictions. everything is provisional and tentative. it is only a deluded fanatic that would claim otherwise
Everything I claim is indeed provisional. That proviso being, of course, that you prove to me otherwise.
You're objecting not to what I "claim" as much as how I present it. That is your prerogative. I don't particularly like your "style", either.
Perhaps it would help if I were to be female?
i rather you not get chummy with me
personal anecdotes are boring
perhaps a chatroom over at aol?
Rest assured, I was not. And no.
i know, boy.
everything is going according just the way you planned it. the dangling baits, the carefully placed nuggets..... the super troll has entered the arena.
On the contrary, laddie. You've been here quite some time.
you again cannot believe that others have the temerity to hold a contrary viewpoint. you cannot believe you have to explain the obvious
how facist and religious of you
Bite harder, blowfish.
I erred earlier in naming you a trout. But you are proving fine sport, regardless.
And, finally,
Xev.
That was no explanation.
And it's come to my attention, reading you, that you have been keeping things from me. I'm very hurt, you know. I detest that. Will you show me? My ears are burning.
And I'm curious, as well. I wonder who it might have been.
Bring out the usual suspects, and put them on parade.
Does a prior rap sheet count for guilt in a court of law? Let's place Mephura in the lineup anyway. Prime suspect. The Law is far too rigid.
thescienceforum.com. Interesting, I had no idea you were registered there - so am I. I participated in one thread, from memory, months ago now. Haven't been back since... it left a rather foul aftertaste.
Include Gendanken and Invert.
"who he is, and why he's there"... something with historical knowledge, in that other forum as well, and obviously dislikes me. Hmm. Can I add any more?
Let's try Water - she's here. And there. Outsider, though - it doesn't smell right. Satyr? Doubt it. In fact, any others I might add here would be pure speculation, and making up numbers.
I'd love a surprise, though.
