Cole Grey:
Now GENDANKEN, because you are only a tiny bit correct, if that, in your opinion that men are better suited to do science, I say you are incorrect. The vast difference in accomplishment is due mostly to sociological history.
My proof?
Look at the arenas of music and prose that you say women should be better at, "female trait", etc.
Vast under-representation of women in the halls of fame for either.
If history can do such things to an arena women should dominate, or at least equal men in, how can you say the same is not true for science.
My point?
if you are correct, let's say men are 2% more apt to do well in science (or whatever), our survey is still so biased that any bs "evidence" presented from "real life" social scenarios is worthless
That's why I added this, Mr. Cole Grey:
Yet according to this, Mozart is a woman and Lady Lovelace a man.- Gendanken
I don't think in terms of gender, nor define the world by it- the world is full of stupidity and genius regardless of its pissing methods.
And yes, I concede that history has been suffocated by the male.
However, I'm not going to sit here and do like all these liberals or these brilliant feminists like this wonder that is JennyRater, and deny what's so fucking obvious.
Number one- this thread references not a genetecist, not an evolutionist,
but a former treasury secretary (guffaw) turned Harvard director, pointing to research.
And he sounds as useless as Jaybee.
Number two- we're built differently, hence think differently. Pry a little more into a condition label CAH, where the female embryo is abnormally infused with androgen. They’re born female- tits and all- but act male.
Number three- I’m a brain junky.
Number four- I've seen tons of documentaries concerning hermaphrodites 'fixed' during the 40's and 50's where a doctor disfiguring your baby sans consent was legal.
These were males and females that grew up psychologically fucked because no matter how the parents tried to hide the truth by giving their little “boy” dolls and the little “girl” trucks in order to train the gender they wanted into them, their body always rebelled.
Why?
Biology.
Now, if these facts are not democratic enough for you all then troll through a mall and watch the behaviour.
Listen to the words they use, how they use them.
In my electric circuits courses,
I was the only female.
In sum, the man has a point- you don't like how he's saying it or that he is saying it at all but he does- yet here is what's funny.
He's a businessman.
Which means he's sitting there with hands as soft as the gel he puts in his thinning hair.
An effete, fed on sugar and cornmeal like the rest of the macho males eating beer nuts on Friday- the ones that watch football and basketball, not play them.
He's the intimidating brute with his pinky up playing cards with his buddies.
You put this paragon of masculinity, this testosterone god, this
Vulcan, in a battlefield and the little bitch will be crying for his cubicle again.
This is the kind of man we have over there in Iraq, where the highest fatality in our ranks is 'friendly fire' because these idiots are all
just as fed on sugar, and weakend by it but so fucking proud to be 'male'.
Like Jaybee.
And he's circumsiced.
HA!
You pussy little wimp, tell me about the contract that didn't come through or did 6 months ago, Mr. Jaybee.
The cars in your garage or the CEOs as tough and manly as you, the women, the money, the
social status- tell me about all the seasonings you sprinkle on your 'masculinity'.
Tell me about what defines you, my little pencil-pusher.
The gym, the muscles, the penny you put in the charity box, that little niece of yours you keep picking on.
Your so fucking sexy and virile.
Guthrie:
I never said I was using logic.
You don't have to.
All of you take something like the Jaybee as a moral low.
So you all wax self-righteous with the egalitarian, we're-all-equal rhetoric.
Don't let me say it for you- you take the prick for a child.
Cause you're the adult and so godamned logical in comparison.
And about capitalism and brute force- the interesting thing is that you arent exactly right. what counts is how you use the force. Moreover, one of the reasons women are in the workplace much more these days is that the means of making production more efficient involve reducing the human labour element of the equation. Thus there are few jobs left where men can be "Men". But I'm sure you know that already, right?
I didn't care for 'what counts' when the point was made.
You put a boy or a girl in a room with a barrier separating each from its mother.
Its been
repeatedly shown that the boy gets pissed and tries breaking that physical barrier while the girl will passively sit there and whine.
I was pointing to underlying biology.
As for the workplace- to further the blah blah- the means of breaking through concrete and blowing up quarries is just as easier today and yet the field continually lacks women. The means for drafting as well.
According to you, the manager has thousands of applications from females in these fields jamming up his desk, right?
In fact you also seem to have assumed I was trying to defend the feminist in the middle, an erroneus assumption. You think I come here to act like a knight in shining armour
Guthrie, Roman, spiderfishy what the fuck ever. You all look alike.
I mix you all up here and there, especially in the mood I've been these past weeks.
But do you hate yourself? Thats what I'm wondering.
Haven't you been paying attention?
Stick this in your eigh track and play it backwards, courtesy of the Backstreet Boys at Sciforums:
~Gendanken is a lonely, hateful beast-whore. She'll eat your children and then go home to hate herself over Baskin Robbins.~
Enough of the silly, I’m not in the mood.
Jennyrater:
Shut the fuck up.
