Meditation

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Joeman

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Okay. I have a few questions about meditation.

1. What is the correct way to meditate? Basically you just sit down and probably with eye closed to minimize distraction. Your mind has to be absolutely free of any thoughts, correct? That is something I couldn't do. My mind is always either thinking or sometimes have random music playing in my head. Any tips? Fukushi talked to me about "moving meditation". I have no idea what that is about.

2. how frequently should I meditate? how long should I do it for?

3. What are the benefit?

I heard it re-energized you the very least, but so far I cannot get any benefit from it probably because I can't meditate the right way.
 
Ah Crap.

I didn't realize there is another thread titled "Meditation Guide".

I am gonna read that thread first and see if it answers my questions.
 
There is a lot of material in this section on Meditation. Please review them. Quickly...

One type of meditation lets the mind wonder but to observe them detached from the thought...then gradually the mind calms down...spurious thoughts become less frequent and do not run away to far.

Some focus on a specific thought, flame of a candle, an object and hold their thought in that area.

25 minutes with 5 minute fade out is a good time.

Music can help to meditate on
 
Originally posted by kmguru
Music can help to meditate on
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Kmguru, I know there are many different types of meditation. I think I should start with traditional hardcore buddhist type of meditation. Music is definitely a no no.
 
That is OK too. It all depends where one is and where one wants to go...

Good Luck. Happy meditating...:D
 
joeman have you read the meditation guide and if so has it done you any good, and also would you like to know the basics as i will and i am sure there are others who would help let me know please.
 
Meditation is always good !

” What is the correct way to meditate?”

To avoid unpleasant thoughts and focus on receiving relaxed state of mind through concentrating in the breath could be called meditation. Like a man who has crossed the river who do not need the boat anymore, once you have reached the other end ( the reason behind meditation) meditation itself is not required.

“Probably with eye closed to minimize distraction.”

No, better is to keep the eyes opened, so that you practice from the beginning itself to focus on the light and not to get distracted by what you see. This also support you to receive positive energy (in the form of light) rather than the darkness.

“Your mind has to be absolutely free of any thoughts,”

This is not at all possible unless other wise you are practicing what is known as Sanchara Samadhy (practicing death while alive). But before that if you can focus the all your thought process to wards the breath then the energy derived can be channeled for more better results.

“My mind is always either thinking or sometimes have random music playing in my head.”

This itself is a good stage as you are able to focus and identify what your mind is doing. This definitely shows a better focusing capability.

“how frequently should I meditate?

As and when you feel like, like any other natural body tendencies.

“how long should I do it for? “

Depends on how fast you want to achieve the end results. But its better recommended to practice 10-15 minutes in the beginning.

”What are the benefit?”

If properly done, it first opens up the certain emotional boundaries, and might force you to take steps which you never did earlier. This could be a new out of order sexual desires and deeds, heroic acts, love for action and adventure, love for more foods ( specially non vegetarian) all together charges your vitality. Feel good. But sometimes could lead to bad end results too. This is why you need a Guru.

As you proceed further you will go through a lot of emotional and spiritual growth.

Wish you all the best !
 
I was meditating not too long ago and I was questioning my faith in god. I thank god for helping me thru troubles in life and such but I was wondering why would he let me or anyone else go thru all that trouble and struggles if ther was a god, you know? But anyway my mind just kept on testing my faith and it was kinda wavering. I let it all slide and just think of nothing.
I like to think myself a temperate person, I havent gotten real angry in my whole life, yes I get mad at times but it aint real bad.
But today after I was done meditating I was just straight up angry. The kind of anger that makes your adrenaline pump like I can whoop anyones ass. I never felt like this before, especially just out of the blue.
So I decided to take a walk to try to calm myself down. I was going to the store to get a drink right, and I see this guy riding a bike and as he went by he was staring, and I hate that shit, especially when you say wats up or hi and they dont say anything, like they to good for you some bullshit like it. He went by and I'm holding myself in check from snatching this guy off the bike and stomping on his head. So I continue to walk and now my face all contorted from being mad, and I'm trying to relax myself. And my mind was like, I dont give a damn about anything or anyone even if it costs me my own, cuz they dont give a damn about you either, my mentality was like f the world for real. Anyway I get to the store buy a drink. I'm pretty calm now when I get out but not my normal self. I start walking back the way I came and I look over and this guy was staring at me hard and he was with his girl, they were probably 17 or 18 yrs old. So I look at him and said wassup how you doin and he looking at me like he all pissed off. He was close to me right off the side walk, I go up to him and I'm real pissed I can feel my chest thumping and I was like what the f you staring at b**** and he started cussing back talking shit, and right before he was even done saying what he was saying I reared my arm that was holding a 1 liter and slapped him across the temple hard as hell with it and I came in with a left hook followed by a combo 2 time jab and I finished it off with a right power hit that knocked him down but i couldnt stop and I was just jumpin on him kickin him and he was bleeding bad from his mouth, nose, face and his girl ran away into the house they just came from. So I ran and ran like I was on air cuz I was gone and over a couple walls in a few mins.
I've gotten into many fights in my time and gotten my share of ass whoopins, but I was never the one to ever ever start a fight. And even when I was in a fight I never truly was mad, like I was today. I'm a very honorable fighter calm fighter, Im the type to just fist fight it out and once your down I wont get all over you but today it seemed I was possessed.
For the past 2 nights I've had dreams of losing my temper and getting into it with someone. And I knew this was going to happen in real life cuz my dreams become uncannyinlgy true most of the time. And I would think I would watch myself from what I've seen.
I dont like the this feeling at all, I'm calmed down some now tho. I'm not sure if its from the experience of meditating or what. Maybe my higher self was wanting to experience it ? Cuz its not first time something like this happend, tho in a different way. Sometimes after meditating I feel real loving or happy or depressed all types of emotions just come. Most of the time I feel the same as I usually do but more relaxed state of mind and mellow after im done meditating.
Anyway that kind of anger is something I'll never forget and hope it will never happen again. And I do feel bad about the whole incident.
I have a feeling some retaliation is going to happen sometime and I'll probably just let it be, I'd fight if thats the way it is dont get me wrong cuz thats just instinct but if I loose, I wont be mad at em, not at all. And I know I'll see them again cuz I know the guy that the house they came from.
I wonder if my faith is still as strong as it is after all this is over heh.
 
i have experienced that. pure simple rage during meditation.
trick here is to control it. unfortunately, i am at a loss on how to explain it. exercise caution mr nacsere
 
hey i just remembered i even maintained an erection for over an hr i think!

edit: during deep meditation that is!
 
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA......

All this advice from Km and Raj boils down to this Spookz?...ahahahahahahha...



bye!
 
Wait... this thread should be renamed as Meditation:Non Physical Viagra!...hahahahahaa...ahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahah... :D :D





BYE!
 
J Krishnamurti on Meditation

"This is something more marvelous if you come upon it. I can go into it, but the description is not the described. It's for you to learn all this by looking at yourself---no book, no teacher can teach you about this. Don't depend on anyone, don't join spiritual organizations; one has to learn all this out of oneself. And there the mind will discover things that are incredible. But for that, there must be no fragmentation and therefore immense stability, swiftness, mobility. To such a mind there is no time and therefore living has quite a different meaning."
 
Blah Blah Blah

This is nothing but good jugglery of philosophical thoughts derived from depression of not able to reach the truth nor even its right path. Description is what is described provided the right candidate reads it with right method, based on right practice and belief. I believe unless otherwise taught no human on earth is going to self learn the process of meditation in which he focus on his own breath. How on earth this is going to fall in to his knowledge by itself ? I wonder ! “one has to learn all this out of oneself” this part is true provided one gets the basic training of what needs to be done, like Karate !

“To such a mind there is no time….blah blah blah ……….

Pathetic !!!
 
"A meditative mind is silent. It is not the silence which thought can conceive of; it is not the silence of a still evening; it is the silence when thought---with all its images, its words, and perceptions---has entirely ceased. This meditative mind is the religious mind---the religion that is not touched by the church, the temples, or by chants. The religious mind is the explosion of love. It is this love that knows no separation. To it, far is near. It is not the one or the many, but rather that state of love in which all division ceases. Like beauty, it is not the measure of words. From this silence alone the meditative mind acts."
-J Krishnamurti, Meditations
 
Hey Spookz,I am all for it.Have you seen this movie called the Guru?...Its about an Indian guy who becomes a Sex Guru?...:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:


bye!
 
Re: Blah Blah Blah

Originally posted by Rajagopals
This is nothing but good jugglery of philosophical thoughts derived from depression of not able to reach the truth nor even its right path
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raj

i do not dispute the fact that there has to be a starting point. it maybe a book , a teacher. the effort however has to mainly come from you. a teacher can impart the method while you will be the one to actually practice and experience it. i look at jk in the particular context he was in. preaching to westerners and their craze over guru's. perhaps the speech was in reaction to that.

Originally posted by Rajagopals
Pathetic !!!
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unduly harsh i think
take a deep breath..........exhaaaaaaaaaaale
there! better?

;)
 
It has to be that way !

'unduly harsh i think '

You are correct, we need to be, unless otherwise these lines are going to make few peoples life miserable if they take it seriously and discard their search for the truth. The fellow says the truth will come to us, that will never happen, unless otherwise you search for it, unless otherwise we look out for that in many ways, unless we wander after that, unless we fall on the feet of the Guru, unless you become crazy about reaching it (the truth) that’s not going to come to you. And when you find it, you find yourself and you find that you yourself is the truth and the rest of what you feel is Maya, then again like great saint Narada we will search for the reason for Maya and found out that its nothing but the life within a human being which creates that. Its is that illusion of dimension which was captured by the body with its senses. We spend the whole life (if you are in search of the truth) to over come this false feeling of dimension and break out to the better state of universal tranquility and knowledge of Sivam.

And more over Spookz, if we are not going to raise our voice these messages are not going to be heard. It is very easy to misguide, but impossible to guide to the truth.

And when you are taking a long breath what happens is, your body gets more moisture because of which you get a lot of fatigue and this fatigue will stop the proper flow of blood circulation and which could make you lazy. Wake up, do not be like a girl who takes long breath on things which she can’t understand, but be a man, be a lion, and roar !

(This is what the great Vivekananda says !)

Roarrrrrrrrrrrrrrr……….rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr……………rrrrrrrr

Oh yah like that.
 
:D

The fellow says the truth will come to us, that will never happen, unless otherwise you search for it, unless otherwise we look out for that in many ways, unless we wander after that, unless we fall on the feet of the Guru, unless you become crazy about reaching it (the truth) that’s not going to come to you

perhaps. i always have an open mind. i also think there are many roads to......

f we are not going to raise our voice these messages are not going to be heard. It is very easy to misguide, but impossible to guide to the truth.

raj, perhaps it is frustrating at times, but make an effort to understand where
most of us come from. you seem at times to be proselytizing and i am not sure it whether it is entirely appropiate to this forum. around these parts we love pissing on gods and whatnot. ;) i still cant believe you dont think jk is misguided! cant you salvage something from the man's philosophy and call it viable?
the man was a childhood hero!

:(
 
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