Man Living As A Baby
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Well, the usual - falls outside of societal norms. At least, what they consider to be societal norms.
Maybe your question is more along the lines of "Well, if it doesn't hurt anyone, why should it be classified as an illness?" In that case, haven't a clue - why is "anal retentiveness" in adulthood considered to be a psychological condition often recommended for treatment? Its usual symptoms include orderliness and compulsiveness, maybe even stubbornness. Not necessarily indicative of someone who is overtly harmful to society, right?
OTH, if any condition causes someone personal anguish, today's method of treatment usually includes "Take three of the red ones and two of the blue ones - I'll see you next week for another hour at $300.00+"
Personally, if someone is not deemed harmful to themselves or others, I don't think the label of "mentally ill" is applicable. However, not everyone feels that way, and you quickly run into conditions such as a "functioning addict". Is that person mentally ill, even though they hold down a job, raise kids and are active in societal activities?
Just for kicks, a partial list of mental disorders as defined by the DSM and ICD:
Wow. Just wow. And that's only a partial list. We're all mentally ill, or at least we would be if the medical establishment had its way. And could come up with a name for it...
Just for kicks, a partial list of mental disorders as defined by the DSM and ICD:Wow. Just wow. And that's only a partial list. We're all mentally ill, or at least we would be if the medical establishment had its way. And could come up with a name for it...
Identification does not mean mental illness. Mental ='s of or pertaining to the brain, disorder ='s out of order or ordinary. Some would call the lesser "disorders" quirks. It's like if a person is wealthy they are eccentric and if thet are poor they are crazy.
Who says they aren't?
Seriously, this practice seems more prevalent than is commonly thought - at least more prevalent than I thought. I believe there was even a Jerry Springer segment on the "lifestyle".
As far as I'm concerned - whatever gets you a nut - hence my Avatar...
You can say that again!Thanks...
Which of course is not true.
I think you're saying it shouldn't be true.
OTH, take a look at some of the antics celebrities get away with. (At least in America) We thrive on it, and send the poor to state-funded mental facilities - for their own good of course...
Take a look at my tag line.
OTH, take a look at some of the antics celebrities get away with. (At least in America) We thrive on it, and send the poor to state-funded mental facilities - for their own good of course...
And wealthy people go into mental hospitals as well. The eccentric bit is just some perception but when it comes down to brass tacks the perception part goes out the window.
Bells
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Indeed.. The mother probably smoked while pregnant and didn't have a father who'd have forced her to have an abortion or have her jailed for doing so.
Different issue Asguard..
No, no, no, no!!!!
I so wish the rabble would get it correct. We rich people go into retreat! Retreat, I say! Mental hospitals, indeed. Hmmmpphhh....
/Randwolf staggers off in bemusement...
@ Rand
That's an old DSM
Multiple personality disorder is now Dissociative identity disorder.
Almost wishing I had that one...it seems like it would be a less lonely world that way...of course it gets really annoying if a teen alter takes your credit card for a spin...
And I think melancholia is now dysthymia.
In addition-tardive dyskinesia is caused by antipsychotic use...and can be avoided if the doc is careful.
That's an old DSM
Multiple personality disorder is now Dissociative identity disorder.
Almost wishing I had that one...it seems like it would be a less lonely world that way...of course it gets really annoying if a teen alter takes your credit card for a spin...
And I think melancholia is now dysthymia.
In addition-tardive dyskinesia is caused by antipsychotic use...and can be avoided if the doc is careful.
K
keith1
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A positive take:
Children learn faster than adults, because of the way they think.
To improve the efficiency of adulthood, by incorporating and extending these "lost" infant advantages.
A negative take:
Obesity and social deficiencies can be debilitating to ones longterm health.
Children learn faster than adults, because of the way they think.
To improve the efficiency of adulthood, by incorporating and extending these "lost" infant advantages.
A negative take:
Obesity and social deficiencies can be debilitating to ones longterm health.
Quite possibly. Thanks for the corrections, though.
Mainly I was just trying to convey the sheer number of "officially" differentiated mental illnesses. I would imagine we are approaching the point of adding a new disease / syndrome / illness every week or so...
Also, please do not misunderstand me - many conditions are very real and backed up with serious empirical evidence. In some cases these are treatable and the effects are seriously diminished through the use of chemical and other therapy.
OTH, I think we (as a society) are sometimes too quick to label "quirks" (to borrow another poster's phrase) as a disease. We could get into all kinds of conversations regarding the pharmaceutical industry and potential conspiracies... Everyone I know is on "blues", or "oxy's", valium or xanax, SSRI's, etc.
The "everyone" in my sentence doesn't seem to be much of an exaggeration, either. Of course, if the GOVERNMENT catches you with any of these substances outside of their properly prescribed and labeled containers, off to jail you go. How ridiculous and hypocritical can you get?
Whatever happened to a good old-fashioned lid of weed?
I actually think it says more about our society...that so many people are this unhappy that they need drugs to cope with "normal society."
That says to me that society is really unhealthy. Not necessarily just people.
That's a problem I have with psych services-it defines what's obviously not a purely personal problem as a personal one. Since I'm intending to be a therapist at some point, I think it has a lot to offer, but...something else is needed.
Children learn faster because of neurological pliability we old farts don't have. It's hardware, not software.
As someone who sees the acute side of mental illness quite regually its quite simple and boils down to 3 questions.
Does it causes you distress?
does it negitivily effect your ability to funtion as YOU desire?
does it pose a threat to you or others? (Direct physical threat, suicide\homicide self harm is more grey)
If no to all three its not a mental health issue.