jcb15digger
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Its the small picture we should be looking at. instead of expanding to Mars we should fix the Earth.Plant trees,Go solar,dismantle all nuclear forces =save the human race!
lookat the SMALL picture
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True, but...
Hi jcb15digger,
Ofcourse we should fix earth, plant trees and be nice to the environment. However, considering - for example - overpopulation problems predicted for the near future, I think it might not be a bad idea to start looking for terrain to colonize. Unless we want to impose government birth control.
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Crisp
Hi jcb15digger,
Ofcourse we should fix earth, plant trees and be nice to the environment. However, considering - for example - overpopulation problems predicted for the near future, I think it might not be a bad idea to start looking for terrain to colonize. Unless we want to impose government birth control.
Bye!
Crisp
Hey Crisp ...
Considering the grief China has been getting for trying to control their population, particularly from the United States ... It's a pefect situation for the U.N. to do something meaningful:
Create a virus that will wipe out about two thirds of the world's population!
That way no one country would have to take the grief that would follow. Hummmm ... maybe they already have: HIV!
Considering the grief China has been getting for trying to control their population, particularly from the United States ... It's a pefect situation for the U.N. to do something meaningful:
Create a virus that will wipe out about two thirds of the world's population!
That way no one country would have to take the grief that would follow. Hummmm ... maybe they already have: HIV!
One of those things............
Human race? Virus? I see a relationship here. Goes back to the qoute of.....
Human race? Virus? I see a relationship here. Goes back to the qoute of.....
Look at earth. Lets move on to another planet so we pollute and destroy that one too. What an idea! Don't get me wrong now. I would like to live if something happens to pur humble home. But I would never support the colonization of a planet with life already on it (this sentence does not pertain to mars).
I am not against populating some other planet but there is a problem we have to notice:
The population-problem on earth will be a fact in this century, we won't be ready to go another planet that soon......
So we only have one thing to do: solve the population problem.
What we need to do is to let people realise they shouldn't take more children then 2....because of the population.
Maybe we can't forbid, but we can ask, and let them realise.
(bebelina, I have no idea where you're talking about)
The population-problem on earth will be a fact in this century, we won't be ready to go another planet that soon......
So we only have one thing to do: solve the population problem.
What we need to do is to let people realise they shouldn't take more children then 2....because of the population.
Maybe we can't forbid, but we can ask, and let them realise.
(bebelina, I have no idea where you're talking about)
kmguru
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Hello Tristan:
Chagur is only being sarcastic but has a point though. You see, the golden rule is all about he who has the gold rules. We do not want anybody else get ahead. If we are in a cesspool, we want everybody to be in that too. If our corporations can not compete with outsiders, we find fault and blame them (the outsiders) for everything.
Now, about pollution. You and so many others (the public) did not want polluton in US. So we practically exported all our pollution to other countries in the name of democracy. We told them that our people want a good standard of living but our technology that provides that standards of living is polluting us. If you take this from our hands you will have good standards of living too.
And so it continues...until someone sees the BIG picture...
That is just part of the story.....
Chagur is only being sarcastic but has a point though. You see, the golden rule is all about he who has the gold rules. We do not want anybody else get ahead. If we are in a cesspool, we want everybody to be in that too. If our corporations can not compete with outsiders, we find fault and blame them (the outsiders) for everything.
Now, about pollution. You and so many others (the public) did not want polluton in US. So we practically exported all our pollution to other countries in the name of democracy. We told them that our people want a good standard of living but our technology that provides that standards of living is polluting us. If you take this from our hands you will have good standards of living too.
And so it continues...until someone sees the BIG picture...
That is just part of the story.....
The meaning
What I´m trying to say here, is that if we don´t fix the Earth first, we have no right to leave. We must repair what we have broken. Then, and only then, do we know the true mening of this planet and it´s value, and are allowed to leave. If we try to leave before we have done this, we will fail. Because we will not know what we will be leaving behind,and what we will carry with us. We must carry the full magnificense of the Earth in out hearts and minds, so that we know what heritage we are passing on. To our children and to ones we will meet.
What I´m trying to say here, is that if we don´t fix the Earth first, we have no right to leave. We must repair what we have broken. Then, and only then, do we know the true mening of this planet and it´s value, and are allowed to leave. If we try to leave before we have done this, we will fail. Because we will not know what we will be leaving behind,and what we will carry with us. We must carry the full magnificense of the Earth in out hearts and minds, so that we know what heritage we are passing on. To our children and to ones we will meet.
We need time to fix our home planet.
When the population explotion is a fact, and we didn't fix the earth yet, but we have the opportunity to leave (not everyone offcourse) then we must do it.
And then try to fix our planet and offcourse try to keep the 'new' planet alive and clean....
When we'll die on this planet, we can't fix it anymore, so first survive and then clean up.....
When the population explotion is a fact, and we didn't fix the earth yet, but we have the opportunity to leave (not everyone offcourse) then we must do it.
And then try to fix our planet and offcourse try to keep the 'new' planet alive and clean....
When we'll die on this planet, we can't fix it anymore, so first survive and then clean up.....
Die, we will do anyway.
But then we have the choice to die with a clean consciense or not. To leave now, would only be a trap for our future selves. We have a responsibility towards our selves and the Earth. We are one and the same and can´t leave before it´s alright to leave. And that moment is far, far away.
But then we have the choice to die with a clean consciense or not. To leave now, would only be a trap for our future selves. We have a responsibility towards our selves and the Earth. We are one and the same and can´t leave before it´s alright to leave. And that moment is far, far away.
We're talking about leaving, but we won't leave al together, we will just spread our species out over a small part of the universe.
Including earth.
offcourse we have some responsibility's and we will keep them, but we can't keep them when every m^2 is filled with people...
Including earth.
offcourse we have some responsibility's and we will keep them, but we can't keep them when every m^2 is filled with people...
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