Kotoko is Arditezza?

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-----> To see how philosophy applies to life for an existabrent, please see a thread entitled "Can you see me" in the free thoughts forum. In this thread, on the pagina 6, one may find the existabrents statement as to how his current state applies to his or her current life. <-----
 
The only time I ever feel like philosophy applies to real life is when I'm eating shrooms. So when I'm going crazy, I start to see and believe crazy things.

But, uh, you do have your problem.

My roommate was a philosophy major. He philosophically told me God existed and none of us existed. And some other stuff. I philosophically told him he was bullshit. He said "Ah ha! You can't attack the framework using the system!" And I said, "sure I can, it's called bringing em down from the inside."

But then, he's a fag, so we know something's wrong with him. The other philo major on my hall was a liberal, and that pretty much says it all. In conclusion, only crazy people think philosophy applies to real life.
 
Roman said:
My roommate was a philosophy major. He philosophically told me God existed and none of us existed. And some other stuff. I philosophically told him he was bullshit. He said "Ah ha! You can't attack the framework using the system!" And I said, "sure I can, it's called bringing em down from the inside."

But then, he's a fag, so we know something's wrong with him. The other philo major on my hall was a liberal, and that pretty much says it all. In conclusion, only crazy people think philosophy applies to real life.
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Well you did not actually bring his system down. Your argument was like saying you can bring the whole mathematics system down from the inside... which you cannot. You cannot prove mathematics to be wrong with mathematics.

Anyway, the thinking involved in philosophy can be used in real life.
 
That's assuming philosophy and mathmatics are suitable for a thingy that makes them the same. Which they are not.
 
Well I think you are... but I think I understand what you are trying to say anyway.

If one devises a system that is axiomatic so it explains all (like your roommate's idea), how could you bring this system down from the inside? The only tools at your disposal are those that build the system. The only way I could think of is to show that two axioms of the system contradict eachother. But if they do not, how would proceed?
 
perplexity said:
Seriously, and not just for you, I tell the tale as a warning.

If the hope is to fullfil yourself emotionally don't expect to achieve it online.
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Like, duh!

The pain of it, the craving, the frustration may be much the same but the pleasure is not.
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Like, duh!!

If pixels on a screen is all you are ever going to get of it, that is a bad deal, from start to finish.
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Like, duh!!!

Ron, are you really that naive. Well yes, clearly you are. In which case it's a lesson for you - one that most adults have long since absorbed.
 
perplexity said:
You are naive if you think that it never happens, that somebody's emotional life could not be entirely online.

That was my mistake, to expect that a relationship would naturally evolve beyond that, one way or another.

The fear of being close in real terms is horribly strong for many whose background was devoid of affection, and because of this they live online as in effect a matter of choice.

They seek shelter in seclusion, the anonymity of the internet, because the real World is too much to cope with.

--- Ron.
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Ron... you have a wife. You've been coy about admitting what's wrong there whilst freely discussing all the other aspects of this with all and sundry and, to be honest, I don't think it's mine or anyone else's business anyway. Reading all this makes me feel uncomfortable, like peeking at someone's private diary - but I'm as curious as the next person, so read I do.

I get the sense from your recent posts that the emotion has gone out of your marriage - that you've been together a long time, and stay together because you don't know what else to do.

I don't even want to know if I'm right or wrong - all I'm saying is, if things aren't right at home then you need to either fix it or call it a day. Turning your computer off for a while might help you make your mind up. That's all I want to say - I don't want to get into a lengthy discussion about it, as I don't think airing your dirty washing in public is healthy for you or her (meaning your wife - not water, who you really need to forget about), and it doesn't make me feel too good either.

Hope it all works out.
 
perplexity said:
How does anybody here get to know what I really need better than I do?

That is the cause of discomfort to me.

--- Ron.
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Erm, they don't.
I don't.
And yet this thread drags on.
That is the cause of discomfort to me.

I have a suggestion: have you and your wife considered spending time apart? Absence makes the heart grow fonder.

Fin.
 
It was not me who started this thread to explore a personal issue.
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Wait.
It wasn't you who ressurected this old thread of Water's for another chance to poke at her and perhaps another opportunity to convince her to let you poke at her?

Riiiiight.

And Kanteletar.
Ok. If you say you don't mind your hubby obsessing over Water, then that's your business. I have the feeling that you're lying though. But again. That's your business.
 
perplexity said:
A diligent investigator won't give up until he comes to the bottom of the matter he is investigating<snip>
--- Ron.
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Phew. Interesting character to be sure, but one spooooooky muthafucker. You cats be sure to check under your beds tonight, dyer hear me :bugeye:
 
Kanteletar said:
As I said, before, a pathetic waste of time.
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For something you deem to be a "pathetic waste of time", you and hubby sure do seem to be spending an aweful lot of time on it.

Honestly, after reading through this sad and awful thread, one thing is clear. You and Ron need to get out more. Get lives that does not include forums on the internet. Your 'hubby' obviously has some issues and now it appears you're not far behind.

He obviously has issues with Water, and frankly I pity Water in this regard. I guess if I had some psycho and his wife hounding me on the forums, I'd be pissed off and probably stop posting as well. Seriously lady, you and your husband need to get out and live the real life, instead of obsessing over an unknown and unseen individual in an internet forum. It's because individuals like the two of you that warnings about giving out personal details on the internet exist.
 
Bells said:
For something you deem to be a "pathetic waste of time", you and hubby sure do seem to be spending an aweful lot of time on it.
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This really is an absurdly pathetic waste of time, a dialogue with the deaf.

During the past 149 days Kanteletar posted on no more than a handful of occasions and only when I encouraged her to speak up for herself.

I came back here to give credit to Kotoko who obviously go it right,

Kotoko said:
... built on half-truths and facades. You think you know her, and she up and changes like night to day with no warning what-so-ever and leaves your life as quickly as she came in by shutting you out.
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It was me that was in shock, as soon as I saw that there were two different personalities to deal with, one on E-Sangha and the other on sciforums, but I somehow managed to give it the benefit of the doubt. Already I could see how false it all was but such are the perils of wishful thinking.

Should have known better.

I have yet not done with caring but I am not going to be holding my breath to wait for the change that Kotoko seemed to hope for.

--- Ron.
 
The point,
it's great hearing nexus bitch slap everyone....
nice seeing perplexity and dude and shit and this or that, moan and groan about their fits.
it's nice seeing contradictions.
it's great hearing an arguement in which the point is to hear ...
uh?
 
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