Jews antisemitism and sciforums

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  1. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    So are atheist Jews persecuted as Jews because Judaism is a race or atheist Jews identify with the tribe as Jews even after they abandon the religion?
     
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  3. Gustav Banned Banned

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    atheist jew is a contradiction
    persecution is thru biological/cultural/legal heritage

    the persecutor will not see the atheist. he will see the jew
     
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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    So religious persecution also embraces the atheist as part of the religious group they have abandoned?
     
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  7. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    There were plenty of born and raised Catholics and Lutherans in Germany who received a rather unpleasant surprise the day the NAZIs came to inform them they were Jewish.
     
  8. Gustav Banned Banned

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    sam
    in that context, impossible
     
  9. Gustav Banned Banned

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    well not quite as there are several perspectives at to what constitutes the def of a jew


    sam?
    any conciliation shit? an equitable solution for both parties?
     
  10. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Of course, a one state solution with equal rights for the indigenous with freedom for refugees from their bantustans, down with ethnocracies and chosen peoples/
     
  11. Gustav Banned Banned

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    are there any precedents for that particular solution?
    any prior proposals of that nature?
     
  12. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Pretty much every occupied country on earth?
     
  13. Gustav Banned Banned

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    within current context please
    israel/palestine


    i guess we are all waiting on your ass
     
  14. Gustav Banned Banned

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    how far do you wanna take that?
    human encroachment into a coyote habitat?
     
  15. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Sure why not? Are you an anti-conservationist?

    I can't think of a single instance where genocide or ethnic cleansing can be justified, can you?
     
  16. Gustav Banned Banned

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    no
    not if you put it like that

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    fine
    the buffalo shall graze from sea to shining sea once again (artistic license)
    the indians, euros and africans will be repatriated
     
  17. mike47 Banned Banned

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    I honestly think that the mods have too much power here . Once I gave my honest and sincere opinion about Big Bang according to my knowledge and I got a stupid warning .
    I will never ever forget this episode and it shows you that everywhere in the world there is INJUSTICE .
     
  18. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    I can't speak for the other mods, but I'm touchy about racism and other kinds of hate speech. Since most of your threads about Jews usually descend to a kind of hate speech sooner or later, are you really surprised that they end up closed?

    My reason for closing your Questions thread is posted in that thread. You started it in bad faith and went on to accuse Jews of handing their children over to the Nazis for execution. Your attempt to stereotype the entire cultural group was hateful.

    It isn't.

    There's no special treatment. You will not be allowed to demonise this group any more than other members are allowed to demonise Muslims.

    Because you're here?

    You need to read the terms of service. Any "right" you have to free speech on sciforums does not extend to hate speech, SAM. There are plenty of anti-semitic hate sites on the internet. Why don't you go and find some friends there? You can post your hate to your heart's content. sciforums has no obligation to host your hate.



    Or maybe you're antisemitic and when you see equal treatment you can't stand for it because you don't like Jews and you think they deserve to be persecuted. Like SAM.

    Ah, the great Jewish conspiracy rears its ugly head again. It sounds like you may not be suited to sciforums, mike47. We don't want racists here.

    Ok. Sounds like a plan.

    Yeah. That's what we want. Now, run along and play nice.
     
  19. Doreen Valued Senior Member

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    Someone said this? Or did you take criticism as necessarily entailing this. Links would help.
     
  20. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Go ahead and talk about Judaism, I had more faith in SAM than Lucy, but was then disappointed when she responded to the notion that Jews have a certain cultural cohesiveness by the example of a Jew victimized to run a Nazi crematorium. How much lower can you get?
     
  21. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    But if I were to say Palestinians kill their own children or don't love them or strap bombs to their babies then it would be meaningful discussion?

    James of course does not even see a problem with the demonisation of Muslims that he wilfully ignores while proactively shutting down any thread that offends him about Jews and banning people who make "antisemitic" remarks or deleting any comments that criticise Jews and which offend him. But you make enough derogatory comments about Muslims that its hypocritical to make noises when anyone else does the same about Jews.

    Are we supposed to ignore all the negative aspects of Judaism and its followers because its "hate speech" to point out their individual and community failings? Its a fact that some Jews did send their families to the gas chambers, including their young children. Is this a comment on all Jews? No, but it doesn't change the fact that if you're going to claim all Jews look out for each other, stuff like this is rebuttal for such claims. Even the myth of the poor undernourished Jewish ghetto police is just that, a myth. Survivors of these ghettoes have recounted the brutality and abuse of these policemen, who were hunted down and killed by the Jewish resistance. Why pretend they were forced into it? Are the PA police who crack down on demonstrators against the Gaza war forced into it? The myth of Jewish exceptionalism is most pervasive among those who ignore the fact that surviors of the Holocaust are treated most shabbily in Israel than they are in any other place.

    And the threads about Muslims, what do they "descend to"?

    You're abusing your power here and being patronising about it. The IDF organ trade thread did not even mention Jews and since when is using an example from history to demonstrate a point "hate speech"? Are we not allowed to say that some Jews sent their children to the gas chambers? Is there a ban on saying Arabs don't love their children and strap bombs to them? Or is your touchiness on bigotry only reserved for Jewish children sent to gas chambers by their parents and not for Arab children presumably blown up by their unloving parents?


    But you're free to host yours?
     
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  22. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    SAM:

    You need to learn that two wrongs don't make a right,

    The fact that some people are racist against Muslims does not make it acceptable to be racist against Jews. The fact that some other people are bigots does not give you license to be a bigot yourself. And really, you ought to be above that. You're smart enough. So what's wrong with you?
     
  23. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think its racist to look at Judaism and its adherents in the same manner as everyone else is examined.

    If it is racism then it should be banned for all, not just for Jews.

    If you're not willing to ban it for all, then its hypocritical to pick out Jews and treat them differently.
     
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