JamesR: Request to reverse infraction

[wynn]

I have received an infraction from JamesR for saying:

Actually, I've heard one view in a WWII documentary according to which Hitler didn't take much issue with Jews until Stalin took issue with them in Russia, and that at that time, as Hitler and Stalin were still allies, out of solidarity with Stalin, Hitler focused on the Jews as well.

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=2943744&postcount=82

which JamesR heard as me asserting agreement with that view:

wynn has been banned for 1 week for trolling.

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Continuing to post lies after having been informed that the information is untrue amounts to trolling. This is in reference to the assertion that Hitler was only an anti-Semite because he wanted to please Stalin.

- and yet I have asserted no such thing.

Note the "Actually, I've heard one view in a WWII documentary ..."


I only reported of a view I have heard in a documentary:

Actually, I've heard one view in a WWII documentary according to which Hitler didn't take much issue with Jews until Stalin took issue with them in Russia, and that at that time, as Hitler and Stalin were still allies, out of solidarity with Stalin, Hitler focused on the Jews as well.

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=2943744&postcount=82

This was in reply to a post by another poster.

If this was an honest error, then why did wynn make no effort to find out the truth, or to support his/her assertions? And then to call somebody a Nazi for daring to correct him/her?

The fact is that I never asserted what you and JDawg are accusing me of.


I request that the infraction be reversed.

 

[Gustav]

and in the same thread....

Is LG really comparing Dawkins' science to eugenics?

Why are people like this allowed to be here? I thought this sort of thing wasn't allowed, like the way that equating atheism and Stalinism isn't allowed.

that guy needs to get a life instead of trolling around here in his jackboots

 

[Balerion]

Of course you were, Wynn. When I expressed my shock at how someone could be so ignorant of history, your defense was

Because history is, like, a totally precise science and all that.

My response was that even so, ideas so clearly wrong do not deserve equal consideration. What was your response to this?

You just did the kind of thing the Nazis did

So first you throw around the idiotic notion that Hitler was just being a good buddy to Stalin, then equated my rebuking of this idiotic notion to the Nazis' treatment of the Jews. Rather than saying "Maybe I have it wrong, guys," you lash out at the people who are rightly exasperated by your irresponsible claim. Why should anyone believe you were really just sharing some information about a documentary (the existence of which I sincerely doubt, especially following your recent "story" about a sick soldier refusing treatment because "if he's not sick, there's no proof he ever was sick.") when you reacted with such hostility when challenged?

People are wise to your game, wynn. Nobody's buying this crap.

 

[quadraphonics]

- and yet I have asserted no such thing.

Note the "Actually, I've heard one view in a WWII documentary ..."


I only reported of a view I have heard in a documentary:

So your argument here is that you should get away with posting offensive, clearly false statements, because you went to the trouble to weasel word them?

:facepalm

 

[Gustav]

indeed
here in sci, we dispense with technicalities, preferring instead to go with gut feeling.
its how we roll
its who we are
sigh


who do you think you are fooling, wynn?
you nazi sympathizer you

 

[wynn]

I admit that I am not even to JDawg. His constant personal attacks on me, the way he follows me around the forum, his persistent refusal to discuss the thread topic and to instead focus on me, his relentless negativity and twisting around of what I say -
this does affect my posting here.


And he is not doing this just to me, he does it to others too.

 

[Balerion]

I admit that I am not even to JDawg. His constant personal attacks on me, the way he follows me around the forum, his persistent refusal to discuss the thread topic and to instead focus on me, his relentless negativity and twisting around of what I say -
this does affect my posting here.


And he is not doing this just to me, he does it to others too.

This is what the headshrinkers would call "Projecting."

 

[wynn]

This is what the headshrinkers would call "Projecting."

It's you who is projecting. You're never the one on the losing end.

You keep playing these psycho-games, so much so I end up feeling like I don't exist - as I once said -

Hey, apparently I am not needed at this forum to represent myself - because you'll just speak on my behalf, right? I can just disappear, vanish, I need not be, for you are here to speak for me!
As if I don't exist, as if I am empty space, a mere, empty name, and you are the one to fill me, to represent me in the public.
I don't have my own intentions, I don't have a self - no, I am what JDawg says that I am. I think, feel, say and do what JDawg says that I think, feel, say and do.
I don't exist, other than as a figment of JDawg's imagination.
And I should be happy with that! Because if I'm not, then I'm a really really bad person.

 

[R1D2]

J Dawg I find that you are arguing again. You don't never seem to stop. I see you instigating all the time to. Oh, i believe I said somewhere before that you would argue with a fence post. I don't think I'm wrong about that...

 

[R1D2]

It's you who is projecting. You're never the one on the losing end.

You keep playing these psycho-games, so much so I end up feeling like I don't exist - as I once said -

I think. JDawg is never wrong. An he plays mental games, haven't heard of someone playing psycho-games.

 

[James R]

The answer is no.

Thread closed.