It makes no sense

in response to your rant about reindeer climbing down chimneys without checking if they might get stuck.
I never said that. All I did was expand - giddit? - on Q's joke about near-light-speed travel.
PS Well, at least one deer won't get hurt in the rutting-season. Nanny-state would make those mandatory asfety attire for all stags.
 
I never said that. All I did was expand - giddit? - on Q's joke about near-light-speed travel.
PS Well, at least one deer won't get hurt in the rutting-season. Nanny-state would make those mandatory asfety attire for all stags.
Well, none of it makes any sense and that is appropriate to the OP, no......:?
 
Well, none of it makes any sense and that is appropriate to the OP, no......:?
All right, I'll let you off with a warning - this time. But if you ever again accuse me of ranting about reindeer, I'll challenge you to a duel with sabers at, oh, say, half past one. No point dying on an empty stomach, wot?
 
Does it make sense god invented planned obsolescence?

Create life - create evolution - let the old models die - eventually have a model which last forever - Grand Plan complete

:)
 
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Does it make sense god invented planned obsolescence?

Create life - create evolution - let the old models die - eventually have a model which last forever - Grand Plan complete

:)
Cannot ever complete the Grand Plan. God would become unnescessary.
Close up shop? Never! ......:(
 
I don't have a problem with the belief in god, so much as the fact that people actually worship it.
 
Yea, the worship, lots of times, is a bit over the top.

I've always firmly believed that of all the bizarre things that come from religions, worshiping is the most dangerous and runs antithetical to how humans are wired, imho.
 
I've always firmly believed that of all the bizarre things that come from religions, worshiping is the most dangerous and runs antithetical to how humans are wired, imho.

Well, that's the sort of thing there can be proof for.

Where is it? Who's getting it? What's the status of the inquiry?

Or is this just an article of faith?
 
When I read articles such as the ones linked below, which are articles written to promote worship, I find them to be exactly the kind of articles that promote motives that can cause good people to do bad things, to give up reason and rationale in favor of illusion, to accept fantasy as reality.

https://www.christianitytoday.com/biblestudies/articles/theology/dangerousact.html
https://www.christianpost.com/news/...causing-de-christianizing-of-gods-people.html
https://churchleaders.com/pastors/pastor-articles/147844-the-dangerous-act-of-worship.html
 
There is no good reason to believe an intelligent, caring being created this vast universe for us, other than to make yourself feel better.
Perhaps that Intelligent Being created the Universe for Its Self--including You. For all you know, You're just another amusement ride at the park :biggrin:

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When I read articles such as the ones linked below, which are articles written to promote worship, I find them to be exactly the kind of articles that promote motives that can cause good people to do bad things, to give up reason and rationale in favor of illusion, to accept fantasy as reality.
Why do you?:?:?:?
 
I've always firmly believed that of all the bizarre things that come from religions, worshiping is the most dangerous and runs antithetical to how humans are wired, imho.
If that were so, they wouldn't insist on doing it - and they do, in large numbers, even in the face of obstacles, disincentives, exclusion and persecution.

I find them to be exactly the kind of articles that promote motives that can cause good people to do bad things, to give up reason and rationale in favor of illusion, to accept fantasy as reality.
But you see, they want to! If they were not seeking an illusion, they wouldn't read the articles, or would read them and laugh or retch or something; they wouldn't attend church or accept anybody as their personal savior, let alone use that book as a guide for living.
It's not causing them to do bad things - it's permitting them to the bad things they wish to do.
 
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If that were so, they wouldn't insist on doing it - and they do, in large numbers, even in the face of obstacles, disincentives, exclusion and persecution.


But you see, they want to! If they were not seeking an illusion, they wouldn't read the articles, or would read them and laugh or retch or something; they wouldn't attend church or accept anybody as their personal savior, let alone use that book as a guide for living.
It's not causing them to do bad things - it's permitting them to the bad things they wish to do.

I think that has a lot to do with religious indoctrination because when we see those who reject their religious beliefs, they will often point out how wrong they were to pursue that illusion. I can agree that some certainly are looking to be permitted, but I also think those illusion cause others to do what they normally wouldn't do under different circumstances. I watched a Ted Talk on that woman who left the Westboro Church where she pretty much explained her conversion in those terms.
 
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