Israel begins sell-off of refugees' land

The Germans give the money to the Jews. Maybe there are many Jews who are not descended from the holocaust who also get it. Maybe there are many non-Nazi Germans whose descendents tax money goes into it. But Israel demands and gets the money, regardless of the innocence of present day Germans or the ethnic cleansing done by present day Jews. They also got back artwork that the Nazis stole and are now demanding the Arabs compensate them for their assets in Arab lands. So don't give me any crap about innocent Jews.

In fact, the Israelis squeeze more than they have a right to considering they already stole all the Palestinian land which the Europeans generously donated to them. Even the Germans are fed up

 

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Of course the Germans are fed up. The Third Reich is gone. There is no one who deserves to pay them. Reparations blow, and the only artwork they give to Jews are pieces that are held in state owned museums. Descendants of Nazis aren't required to pay anybody simply for being a Nazi descendant, however.

Anyone who thinks that they deserve reparations for events that they were not even alive to see is a nutcase who needs to get their head rewired, and that includes Jews and Palestinians alike. History sucks... but life goes on.

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Right, but if you take land and compensation for crimes against your grandparents, you also pay for crimes by them. Time for the Jews of Israel and their Zionist supporters to pony up their debts.

 

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What percentage of the Israeli population ardently seeks out German reparations..? I doubt that many do. Regardless of what they believe, they shouldn't get any reparations... and the only reparations that Palestinians should get are ones that don't deprive Jews of their homes.

And who are the Zionist supporters? I'm not Jewish but I recognize Israel's right to exist. I don't see how I could possibly owe money to Palestinians for that, however.

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Who cares? If they disagree with compensation, they can return everything to the Europeans including the gift of 51% of Palestine.

 

I got into the same argument with eltric fetus just because justice is painful to those who have commited crimes and gained from them doesn't mean justice should be served.

 

it wasn't a legal arguement. it was a cause and effect argument.

and the third option?

What the arabs countries are willing to give the palestinians is irrelevant what matters is the 3 choices law gives them and you demand 2 be taken from them.

 

and your wrong. Sorry we got away with it for this long we can't be touched is not a moral,legal,or rational argument. The palestinians still have a claim to it because guess what an illegal act cannot confer legitimacy.

 

So you support the jewish war of conquest in 48?

 

you do not inherit the crime but you do inherit the responsbility to rectify the crime. International law gives refugess 3 choices settle in another country, gain compensation, and being allowed to return to their homes. That is there choice and no one is allowed to take that away from them which is what you want to do.

 

Irrelevant

No they aren't innocewnt they have continued the crime of dening them basic rights.

It won't ruin them the even same would be willing to have the Israeli government pay for the movement not the person themselves.

 

Err, no you don't. These aren't the middle ages. You don't owe anybody *ANYTHING* for things your parents did. Your parents aren't you. You are an entirely different person.

 

If you are living on occupied lands that are internationally recognised as occupied, you are still breaking international law if your parents are the ones who were the occupiers.

If you inherit stolen property from your parents it is still stolen property

Refugees don't lose their rights simply because the people who evicted them are dead

 

Not all the land was stolen. A ton of it was abandoned when the Palestinians migrated after not accepting partition and became self-imposed refugees. As I said earlier, your proposal doesn't solve the underlying problem. It just solves the problem for only one side, while creating another group of refugees. I see no reason for that to happen.

 

No one believes that hasbara anymore. Get with the real history
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxxMppPxXCw

http://www.zochrot.org/index.php?lang=english

Its very simple, if the Jews of Israel do not want to pay for the crimes of their parents, then they should give up stolen property.

 

When your parents die and leave debt tell the bank that I'm sure they will listen. You are responsible for the unpayed debts(which an unrectified crime is) of your ancestors.

 

It wasn't abandoned they had every intention of returning they just didn't want to stay in the area of the war of jewish conquest was going on.

 

That did happen, SAM. Some were forcibly removed, some left of their own accord and were then turned away by their arab brothers in the neighboring states.

The only Palestinians who have claim to some property are those who were alive and present when they lost their home. That is the only case where it is justified to compensate the Jewish family who owns that home to allow the Palestinian owner to settle back in. However, that does not describe most Palestinians today, who were born afterward and never legally owned those homes in the first place. Their claim is purely based on mythos, not law.

 

No one leaves their home "of their own accord" leaving behind all their belongings unless they are being massacred. Ethnic cleansing is not voluntary and running to save yourself from being massacred does not strip you of your rights. Thats what refugees are.

Meanwhile the Jews today continue the legacy of their parents and are fully 100% responsible for crimes against Palestinians:

 

So in other words you think its right for punishing people for not staying in a warzone?

No will all the palestinians have a right to come back to their land.

maybe to you but not according to the law and reason.

a they owned those homes and the fact the their ancestors are dead doesn't mean it still isn't theirs they have inherited the claim.

No the palestinian claim is based in law the jewish one is mythos.