Any time you decrease the supply you increase the demand, and when demand is increased the value increases too, which attracts criminal minds and risk takers.
Then you fight the crime, using tax dollars.
Is Marijuana a gateway drug?
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Any time you decrease the supply you increase the demand, and when demand is increased the value increases too, which attracts criminal minds and risk takers.
Then you fight the crime, using tax dollars.
while i have tried many other drugs, the fact is that i was already inclined to experiment with all kinds of drugs, i didnt suddenly decide i wanted to try E after smoking my first joint. so far the only drug i can say that i really enjoy is BZP, which is legal anyway.
I think that tobacco, alcohol, marijuana, ecstacy, speed, acid, ect ect can all be called gateway drugs. If you try a drug and it doesn't ruin your life and you have interesting, enjoyable experiences you are then likely to think about trying the other legal/illegal drugs. Those who do have bad experiences may then be a bit more wary of trying the other drugs.
However I don't think marijuana is more of a gateway drug than the others.
As someone else mentioned, you have to take into account that there are other factors that alter when someone tries a drug. When I was a teen marijuana was easier to get and more affordable than the other illeagal ones.
So I am a bit wary of some of the studies. There is certainly a history of propaganda with marijuana.
However I don't think marijuana is more of a gateway drug than the others.
As someone else mentioned, you have to take into account that there are other factors that alter when someone tries a drug. When I was a teen marijuana was easier to get and more affordable than the other illeagal ones.
So I am a bit wary of some of the studies. There is certainly a history of propaganda with marijuana.
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lsd was the gateway drug for me.
marijuana is the last drug i ever did, and really the only one i still do...aside from cigarettes or beer.
*shrug*
marijuana is the last drug i ever did, and really the only one i still do...aside from cigarettes or beer.
*shrug*
Was it the gateway to paradise?
No its the gateway to reality altering experience, gave me a new perspective at least.
Fraggle Rocker
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A hundred years ago when all of these drugs were legal and sold in *gasp* drug stores this phenomenon was unknown. Lots of people injected cocaine (the preferred method in those days) without ever thinking about marijuana. Lots of people used the various forms and concentrations of opium (laudanum and morphine, although injectable heroin and opium for smoking were also available) without ever thinking about marijuana or cocaine.
Considering that cocaine is a stimulant, opium is a depressant, and marijuana is for the most part simply an intoxicant, it's rather bizarre to think that large numbers of people would even think of testing all three in the absence of the social and market pressures that illegality brings to bear.
Considering that cocaine is a stimulant, opium is a depressant, and marijuana is for the most part simply an intoxicant, it's rather bizarre to think that large numbers of people would even think of testing all three in the absence of the social and market pressures that illegality brings to bear.
"Marijuana" (Mexican slang for Cannibis) has not brought me to other drugs. It has only helped me sleep, and has helped me get rid of my morning stomach pains, has helped me get rid of stomach pains when I have the flu, it has actually helped me enjoy working at my job, despite what you may "learn" in all the propaganda about how it demotivates.... Honestly, it will demotivate you if you believe all the lies and bullshit the "pros" put out on Marijuana.
I've smoked a god-damn lot of this, and I am indeed a "pro" on the subject of marijuana. lol
I've smoked a god-damn lot of this, and I am indeed a "pro" on the subject of marijuana. lol
C6H Anion Prophecy
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Baby aspirin and sugar are the 'gates'.
As to marijuana and hemp, they should be immediately legalized.
Hemp has possibly the strongest carbon sequestering factors for detoxifing the biosphere, so the foolish corporate hooligans who had it banned and eradicted, committed a serious sin against the Earth, and this weed will be crucial in addressing the issue of global warming.
Google it, you'll see.
As to marijuana and hemp, they should be immediately legalized.
Hemp has possibly the strongest carbon sequestering factors for detoxifing the biosphere, so the foolish corporate hooligans who had it banned and eradicted, committed a serious sin against the Earth, and this weed will be crucial in addressing the issue of global warming.
Google it, you'll see.
-C6H
Hey, I couldn't agree more! Soon enough the public will see the truth on their own. God save the internet so this can happen!
http://www.savetheinternet.com
infoterror
Registered Senior Member
Drugs being illegal is a gateway drug, as we tend to group them together.
Not to mention hemp is a better alternative for making paper. It's easier and quicker to grow and harvest, and it makes more durable paper, if I'm not mistaken.
Besides, banning substances such as marijuana is communist. (Think about this statement and let it soak in before you respond in disagreement.)
EDIT: I forgot to mention that the only drugs I've done are over-the-counter ones, prescription ones, alcohol, marijuana, and caffeine. Of them, marijuana was the latest one I've done, and I've done it on and off. It has not led me to any other drugs, as I have firmly decided that I would not do any of the harder drugs which can actually do serious harm to me.
EDIT: I forgot something again. I tried a mini cigar sometime after I first tried weed. So add tobacco to my list.
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well, i dont know what to vote for.
as a pot smoker, i don't think it is a gateway drug. I have interest in other drugs that i have yet to try, but that dosent have any asociation with smoking pot.
as a pot smoker, i don't think it is a gateway drug. I have interest in other drugs that i have yet to try, but that dosent have any asociation with smoking pot.
what kinda high do you people get anyways?
some people feel different.
I feel really grounded and i wanna listen to The Doors and such
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some people feel different.
I feel really grounded and i wanna listen to The Doors and such
...what kinda high do you people get anyways?
some people feel different.
I feel really grounded and i wanna listen to The Doors and such
The one time I was truly and thoroughly stoned (probably the only time I've felt more than just a buzz), I felt disconnected from my body. I would move my hand in front of my face and feel it just fine, but I would only see it move a second later. Time became very sluggish, and a couple times I whited out for only a second but it felt like a whole minute. But once I sat down, relaxed, and watched TV, time zoomed by and the TV shows ended when the action only just got started. Certainly an amazing experience.
By the way: The Doors is an awesome band!
When a drug becomes illegal, the only people who use that drug are criminals. Err, something like that. And criminals are bad bad people, we all know.
The only other "illegal" drug I've ever used besides C. Sativa would be psilocybin mushrooms. I could definitely say that having used marijuana many many times made me more willing to try something like that, but it was equally curiousity in something like that which would influence me. Mushrooms have a shamanic, spiritual quality, and have been used that way (along with similar substances) probably since the dawn of civilization. My mild interest in that kind of thing is probably more of a contributor to my trying them than anything else.
A close relative of mine, who has used many more drugs than I have, started smoking I believe before he was in high school. And I also do believe that tobacco was probably the first substance he ever used regularly.
And later on, he started powdering his prescription Ritalin tablets (for ADD) and snuffing them up the nose for what he still considers (though he doesn't use them anymore) one of the best highs ever! How awesome is that? His mommy and daddy payed for "medicine" that he was simply taking to get a high from.
And on tobacco, I also can recall that many of the so-called problem or "troubled" students I knew in school were smoking and drinking at a considerably younger age than most other people.
Overall, I don't think marijuana by itself can influence people to do harder drugs, if you want to call them that. I think there's usually a secondary factor.
I believe I have heard that its relative overall harmlessness is one reason people might think that it's a gateway. They may be lulled into thinking that every drug they've been warned away from will be just as harmless. But that's really weak reasoning, and that's not just my opinion.
The drug czars and propagandists, from what I can gather, want to simply call marijuana a harmful drug for vague reasons (like calling it a gateway, which is pretty vague if you ask me!), link it with other, much more harmful drugs (crack, heroin) in one huge, terrifying, "pedophile"-like category, and hopefully keep the debate frozen. After all, who wants to support child-raping??!?!?!
What else can you expect from people who trumpet record-levels of drug arrests as a victory in the mostly fraudulent war on drugs (if I remember correctly, Clinton did just that), instead of just an indication that either there are more users, or more users getting arrested? Or that an alcoholic who lives near a public school needs treatment, but a casual marijuana user who lives in the same neighborhood may just get a very serious jail sentence, just for living in a so-called drug-free zone? Apparently being a gateway drug with an absurdly low mortality rate is more serious than a legal drug with one of the deadliest track records in recorded history.
Some examples of "GATEWAYS":
Getting into a car is a gateway for fatal accidents and vehicular homicide.
Eating at a restaurant (especially Taco Bell) is a gateway to food poisoning.
Eating fast food of any kind is a gateway to clogged arteries.
Taking FDA-approved anti-depressants (according to some) is a gateway to possible suicide.
Owning a gun is a gateway to someone getting killed with that gun.
Being a woman on a date is a gateway to date-rape.
Being born is a gateway to eventually dying, at some point.
Are those silly examples? Anyone have ideas for some other gateways, real or imagined, serious or silly?
Sorry for my long ramble. Goodbye.