Is it POSSIBLE for two gods to simultaneously exist?

There may be an infinite amount of Gods, but if they were they are all the same being over and over forever, all having a domain of His own. Unless there is one God over all of infinity.
 
kx000 said:
There may be an infinite amount of Gods, but if they were they are all the same being over and over forever, all having a domain of His own. Unless there is one God over all of infinity.
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Well there has been a multitude of gods proposed, and fights documented between them. But wasn't the early concept of gods that each of them had a specific job?

The two identical gods concept each being
omnipotent
omnipresent
omniscient
means to my, 3 working neurones, perhaps possible but perhaps not

Do/can they just accept neither can out do the other?

One creates a Universe within the 1 void

The other creates a seperate / different void and makes his version of his Universe

:)
 
kx000 said:
There may be an infinite amount of Gods, but if they were they are all the same being over and over forever, all having a domain of His own. Unless there is one God over all of infinity.
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Well there has been a multitude of gods proposed, and fights documented between them. But wasn't the early concept of gods that each of them had a specific job?

The two god concept is about can they exist together?

Neither can out do the other

One makes a Universe in this void

The other makes his own void and makes his own version of his Universe ideas

:)
 
Michael 345 said:
Interested more in the atheist thoughts because I suspect theist will dismiss the concept of more than one god
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as u suggest
if u(as a god) can equally bend things
then bending becomes the art of the game inside the game
all outcomes must be all existent at the same moment in time as all time becomes non linear
physics

2 egos existing together
both holding the nuclear Armageddon button in the mind of a child
who should be the leader ?

is this the place for advanced psychotherapy discussion around the human mind ?
probably not
most religions exploit human weakness for fascist power
and a lot f mega church evangelicals appear to act in the same way they define the devil

at which point i step off the conversation
 
Michael 345 said:
Well there has been a multitude of gods proposed, and fights documented between them. But wasn't the early concept of gods that each of them had a specific job?

The two god concept is about can they exist together?

Neither can out do the other

One makes a Universe in this void

The other makes his own void and makes his own version of his Universe ideas

:)
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Every YHWH rules over an infinite yet not endless amount of space time, then the next section, and every section of the universe has its own YHWH, but two Yahweh's can’t interact with one another.
 
Dicart said:
You can not have perfection without infinity.
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Some explaination about that.
Christian Tradition. While some Greek philosophical schools, such as the Stoics, conceived matter to be infinite, Christian theologians consistently attributed infinity to God in the absolute sense. The universe may be relatively infinite in that we do not know its bounds, limits, and ends nor do we know the infinite array of all that it contains, yet it is finite in that it was created and so is bound by time, space, and its own limited finite ability to be actualized (Thomas Aquinas, Summa theologiae,I.7.2–4). However, as Creator, God is not a member of the finite created order, and so is wholly other than all else. Therefore, God does not belong to any finite genus, that is, he cannot be named within or numbered among any genus of the created order and therefore does not partake of the limitations of that order (Summa theologiae,I.3.5). As God he belongs to an entirely different ontological order and as such is absolutely infinite. Moreover, Aquinas argues that because God's very nature is to be (ipsum esse ) and so pure act (actus purus ) he is absolutely "infinite and perfect" in that all the attributes that are predicated of him are fully and perfectly in act and thus infinitely in act (Summa theologiae, I.7.1). For example, because God is infinite as pure act "it is necessary that the active power of God should be infinite … Whence, since the divine essence, through which God acts, is infinite it follows that his power likewise is infinite" (Summa theologiae, I.25.2). All of God's perfections then are infinite in that they possess no limitations as in creatures but are fully and perfectly actualized within his divine being.
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https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/infinity-god

Now, concerning actual infinity, we often think that this is not something we can encounter in our reality.
Thats in my opinion half true, so here some speculations :
Infinity can be related to absence of relation, so independence.
You can imagin that time in a space disconnected from an other space has nothing more to do with this other time flow. So, as the two spaces reconnect (if they do but let say they do to go further), to have a perfect randomness of the instant (internal instant) of reconnection, time must have flow in this subspace during an infinite amount of time. If the randomness is not perfect, time do not need to flow an infinit amount of time.
So here again, we see that perfection need infinity to be.
 
Michael 345 said:
For the thread perhaps keep to the Abrahamic religions god, meaning
  • omnipotent
  • omnipresent
  • omniscient
version. Henceforth shorthand term 3O god. To be clear god² has not done anything even though has the EXACT same characteristics (powers) as god¹

Theist, who believe in at least one god, perhaps pretend Mary had twins, but only one did anything (create the Universe etc etc), the other was never heard of until a new discovery of Dead Sea Scroll turned up

I am not suggesting you
  • stop worshiping your current god or
  • switch allegiance or
  • worship both
  • even though these options are available
Atheists, use as a mind exercise. Would it be possible, reality wise ie Physics wise?
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Lol!!
What are talking about?
 
Michael 345 said:
For the thread perhaps keep to the Abrahamic religions god, meaning
  • omnipotent
  • omnipresent
  • omniscient
version. Henceforth shorthand term 3O god. To be clear god² has not done anything even though has the EXACT same characteristics (powers) as god¹

Theist, who believe in at least one god, perhaps pretend Mary had twins, but only one did anything (create the Universe etc etc), the other was never heard of until a new discovery of Dead Sea Scroll turned up

I am not suggesting you
  • stop worshiping your current god or
  • switch allegiance or
  • worship both
  • even though these options are available
Atheists, use as a mind exercise. Would it be possible, reality wise ie Physics wise?
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I began to reply to this topic yesterday......
and got myself in so deep that I decided to just wait and look at this again today.........
but basically....
IF THE MORE POWERFUL "GOD" LOVED THE less powerful "god" like a son... or at least like an off the scale brilliant A. I. that years and decades had been invested in.....

then.........


Assuming eleven dimensions of space and time is where truly 'fundamental energy" would exist...... or begin.....
if an intelligence composed of ninth or tenth dimensional energy attempted to take over......
and if the Intelligence of fully fundamental energy actually thought of any variation of "Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan" somewhat like King David thought of his son King Absolom....
then........
that lesser energetic god could appear as a creator to life forms unable to perceive any space - time dimension above where they are....
.... and that "lesser god" could...... conceivably end up at least seeming to rival a more powerful and more energetic Creator????????

The God composed of the most fundamental energy would actually have ultimate power over
any lesser god composed of a less powerful energy but.......

... there is a possibility of the most fundamental energy God allowing a lesser god to be competitive....
for a long time to work out some sort of philosophically valuable reality film project that would end up having
great value over infinite time in the future???

b. What about the devil?
If you understand the ego, you will understand the concept of the devil. Satanic frequency is the LOW-RANGE frequency that surrounds us in our collective thinking. It is the opposite of the HIGH, INCOMPREHENSIBLE LOVING frequency of God. Please hear me out on something...be careful of the music you listen to, the movies or TV you watch, the gossip or negative speaking you participate in. All these things LOWER the Soul's vibration. Lower vibration brings depression, disillusionment, disease and despair. The lower our Soul's vibration falls, the more these dark things come upon us. Once you fall into LOWER vibration, immediately seek to amend it with LOVING, HIGHER VIBRATIONAL THOUGHT. It is like anything else, the more you put into something, that is what the end result will be.
https://www.near-death.com/experiences/gay/christian-andreason.html#a13b
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Feel free to ignore this comment if this is really annoying......... I won't entirely blame you.......


But the king covered his face, and the king cried with a loud voice, O my son Absalom, O Absalom, my son, my son!

And Joab came into the house to the king, and said, Thou hast shamed this day the faces of all thy servants, which this day have saved thy life, and the lives of thy sons and of thy daughters, and the lives of thy wives, and the lives of thy concubines;

In that thou lovest thine enemies, and hatest thy friends. For thou hast declared this day, that thou regardest neither princes nor servants: for this day I perceive, that if Absalom had lived, and all we had died this day, then it had pleased thee well.


Now therefore arise, go forth, and speak comfortably unto thy servants: for I swear by the LORD, if thou go not forth, there will not tarry one with thee this night: and that will be worse unto thee than all the evil that befell thee from thy youth until now." (2 Samuel 19)
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