IMO and from what I have variously gleaned over many years the Mujahideen is clearly where it all started. Frankensteins monster. I beg to differ. No problem. :m: On what grounds do you claim he is a liar? And Bin Laden is still at large. Can you see the problem with a perceived enemy such as AQ. Billions of dollars and thousands of lives spent and wasted ... for nothing. Oh well, we`ll go after the Taliban then. Uh, thats not working ... lets try Iraq. Oops, bad idea. Pakistan? Perhaps Iran? :m: You are clearly dishonest or in denial around this issue. ? The Afghan freedom fighters are fighting on Afghan soul to free Afghanistan from the invaders. Perhaps and regrettably. But then again, US support of a criminal Israel, sanctions causing starvation in Iraq, etc. has cost way more than 3000 lives, thus the US should take a closer look at its own policies for what occurred. And as regards full blown kneejerk military retaliation against innocent Afghans and Iraqis, do you really want to get involved in numbers? In a nutshell, and verifiable, what exactly is their "ideology"? AQ, yes, understandably and rightly so, needed to pay for what occurred, but the Taliban, who 99.99999% of US vengeance has been poured upon had nothing, yes, nothing, to do with 9/11. A criminal act, by an extreme Muslim cult, absolutely akin to Aum Shinrikyo.