interesting pattern of winds in the stratosphere

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https://earth.nullschool.net/#curre...thographic=242.19,0.96,403/loc=-119.130,0.582


You do not see this often(If ever?)
enjoy
 
Remind me, please. The stratosphere is which layer of the atmosphere?

Is this what is happening high up or near the ground?
 
James R said:
Remind me, please. The stratosphere is which layer of the atmosphere?

Is this what is happening high up or near the ground?
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Seriously?!?
Oh ok
we are in the troposphere
going up
we have the tropopause
and then stratosphere
and then the stratopause
and then the mesosphere
and then the thermosphere
and then the exosphere
and then space(perhaps)
none of whose boundaries are firm
and different disciplines have different names --and levels
we have the geosphere
hydrosphere and biosphere
and none of those boundaries are firm

nothing is simple
eg:
the hadley cells
are an interesting approximation of atmospheric/ meteorological activity within(?) our troposphere
but the seeming chaos of our weather systems and climate don't fit comfortably within those confines

anyway; the various patterns are interesting
and observing them is fun
enjoy
 
Which of these levels is represented in the link? Without this information it is meaningless.
 
You guys do know there is a menu at the link, right?

(Hamburger, lower left)

OTH, if you are just having fun with sculptor, do carry on...

https://ibb.co/ctnTQRX

* I haven't tried to upload or link an image in years, but the editor functions for this seem broken - hence the link.

Using simple, advanced, text, bb code, upload local, insert linked image, manual tags - all of the above. Does it work for other people?
 

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Randwolf said:
You guys do know there is a menu at the link, right?

(Hamburger, lower left)

OTH, if you are just having fun with sculptor, do carry on...

https://ibb.co/ctnTQRX

* I haven't tried to upload or link an image in years, but the editor functions for this seem broken - hence the link.

Using simple, advanced, text, bb code, upload local, insert linked image, manual tags - all of the above. Does it work for other people?
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Aha, thanks for this, very helpful. So now we can see what sculptor failed to tell us, that his picture was of winds at an altitude at which the ambient pressure is 1% of that at the surface. But there seems to be no clue as to what altitude that is, unless I'm misreading the menu.

(Sculptor has a habit of omitting the relevant details that might make his posts mean something, and this seems to be no exception.:rolleyes:)
 
It appears that the closest you can get is atmospheric pressure - under "height" which is in hPa (Hectopascals).

I suspect that could be cross referenced to a table of some sort representing the "spheres" (stratosphere, etc.)

Admittedly cumbersome...

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Edited to add:

Turns out wiki has just such a table at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Atmosphere

Interestingly enough, wiki references sculptor's link in "external references" at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratosphere
 
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ok
the image was stated to be at 10 hpa
at 10 hpa
above the equator
the most likely height would be near the top of the stratosphere, or about 50 km above mean sea level
(that can vary---day to day--week to week--month to month--year to year--decade to decade--century to century---etc...---)
50 km is a good approximation for now

as I said
enjoy

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I find this interesting/entertaining, perhaps, because one of my courses of study included meteorology at SIU)
---great fun--and, I got hooked, --this was back when we got our information from ground stations and balloons and then had to know enough fortran to make punch cards which were then fed into the punch card readers for the computer ---then come back in a day or 2 and get your weather prediction printout.
 
sculptor said:
Seriously?!?
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Yes. Does it worry you when somebody admits to not knowing something?
we are in the troposphere
going up
we have the tropopause
and then stratosphere
and then the stratopause
and then the mesosphere
and then the thermosphere
and then the exosphere
and then space(perhaps)
none of whose boundaries are firm
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Thanks.

So, are there any particular interesting features at the altitude you referred to in your opening post, which you'd like to discuss?
 
James R said:
A)Yes. Does it worry you when somebody admits to not knowing something?

Thanks.

B)So, are there any particular interesting features at the altitude you referred to in your opening post, which you'd like to discuss?
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A)---no---
(My beloved spouse has remarked that, quite often, I "make obscure references thinking that everyone knows that to which I am referring, when, quite often, that ain't true")
sigh
OOPS

What I found interesting;
was that what you see as blue smudges were very tight bands running along the 25 degree north and 35 degree south parallels
The pattern is usually a tad more messy
like now
https://earth.nullschool.net/#curre...hographic=-93.07,-3.07,468/loc=-91.457,41.441

the tight bands were what you might call "outliers"
and outliers have always been of interest to me
 
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