Insomnia

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I have insanely bad insomnia. I'm talking: not being able to sleep for two days, on numerous prescription meds type insomnia.

I hear that this is reaching massive proportions in our "artificial world" (fluorescent lighting, computer screens, odd work & sleep hours).

Anybody else?

~String
 
i thought this was a thread FOR inzomnia:p

anyway, how have you been feeling latly?
depressed? any anxiaty?

do you drink coffee?
 
...do you drink coffee?

LOL, does he drink coffee? :wallbang: He's not stupid Asguard. He would have made the coffee/awake connection a long long time ago.

String, Carcano is right. :thumbsup:
Get your thyroid checked.
 
because mental illness and caffeine are SO much rarer than a thyroid problem right?:rolleyes:
 
I used ot suffer terribly from it too, I guess not to the extent of two nights in a row, but close. Not much I can offer in the way of advice that hasn't already been said. But you have my sympathy friend!

Maybe join fightclub!
 
The very few times it's happened to me, I've found that taking it on at its own game works best.
In other words, I adopt a different attitude, So, O.k body, we don't need to sleep? Fantastic let's stay up for three nights in a row, fuck it four!
The body always wins.
 
I've noticed some things as I've aged (I'm 43). Though I'm not an insomniac, I don't sleep as easily as I did when I was younger. I go to bed between ten and ten thirty nearly every night, and get up around six. If I have any caffeine after four or five in the afternoon, it affects my ability to go right to sleep. Sugary foods within a couple of hours of bedtime, and I'm doomed to toss and turn for at least an hour before I drift off. If I had a Coke at eight in the evening, I wouldn't be able to sleep before midnight. I think back to being a kid and washing down slice after slice of pizza with glass after glass of Pepsi, then going into a coma like sleep the moment my head hit the pillow a couple of hours later; it seems hard to believe now.

If I've spent the day behind the computer with little to no physical activity, I have a noticeably harder time sleeping. Even going for a half an hour walk makes a significant difference.

I've also noticed that I cannot sleep in anymore. Maybe a half an hour to an hour past the time I normally get up, but no longer. And taking a nap on a lazy Sunday is pretty much out too. How much of this may be because of Grave's disease, and being on thyroid replacement, versus normal physiological changes associated with aging is hard to know. But my thyroid level consistently tests in the normal range, so I think it has mostly to with getting older.
 
I have insanely bad insomnia. I'm talking: not being able to sleep for two days, on numerous prescription meds type insomnia.

I hear that this is reaching massive proportions in our "artificial world" (fluorescent lighting, computer screens, odd work & sleep hours).

Anybody else?

~String


I don't have it as bad, but I've gotten into cycles like that before.
Eventually, my body just crashes.
 
depressive cycles are one of the leading causes of sleeping problems. The irritating thing is that like depression itself its self perpetuating. Lack of sleep lowers mood which causes lack of sleep.

anxiaty is another major causes in acute cases (because in general anxiaty atacks are acute rather than cronic)
 
I have insanely bad insomnia. I'm talking: not being able to sleep for two days, on numerous prescription meds type insomnia.

I hear that this is reaching massive proportions in our "artificial world" (fluorescent lighting, computer screens, odd work & sleep hours).

Anybody else?

~String

I mostly sleep three-four hours a day and cant remember a time when i slept more than that.
 
I used ot suffer terribly from it too, I guess not to the extent of two nights in a row, but close. Not much I can offer in the way of advice that hasn't already been said. But you have my sympathy friend!

Maybe join fightclub!

Argh..

You look like draqon, but you sound nothing like him!..

Stop desecrating an icon of nonsensic thought.
 
I'm like a newbie so excuse me if I seem to be bothering you . But I know you people would welcome me .
Well, I don't know how did I develop Insomnia, I have been having it since I was 12 years old . It was mild then . It's much worse now (I am 16 now ) . What I have figured out that Insomnia in my case is a result of restlesness of my monkey mind . The prime cause to my this disease is attributed to mental disorder rather than a physical one . I always push myself in whatever I do , try to do better than others , all to uplift my ego and the result is that I my mind wanders from one thing to another . With help of yoga and meditation it seemed to have taken a beating but still I am not able to have a quality sleep .

What I think is that our body has a kind of system, we can never sleep until our body sends the signals to our brain of our tiredness(Mental or physical) . That's why it happens with a person up here(on the page) who just can't sleep without the doing of some brisk excercise .

Another aspect I'd like to discuss about it is the fear. The fear of not being able to sleep . Often people get very conscious and worried if they need some proper sleep for a presentation or something that requires rest . Unknowingly , they bring up the fear , the fear of not being able to sleep . And the more they think about being able to sleep , the more the fear haunts them and they end up getting restless .
The best thing to do in such type of situations is to relax . . . and let go of whatever outcome the absence of a night's sleep might bring .
It's like the more we run after it , the more it runs away from us and more the more we run away from it, the more it runs towards us . :p

Does anybody have an idea about the effects of sleep deprivation?
I am pretty worried about that . Haha .
 
Well, I don't know how did I develop Insomnia, I have been having it since I was 12 years old . It was mild then . It's much worse now (I am 16 now ) . What I have figured out that Insomnia in my case is a result of restlesness of my monkey mind . The prime cause to my this disease is attributed to mental disorder rather than a physical one . I always push myself in whatever I do , try to do better than others , all to uplift my ego and the result is that I my mind wanders from one thing to another . With help of yoga and meditation it seemed to have taken a beating but still I am not able to have a quality sleep.
Not being able to sleep at NIGHT is only a problem if you make up for it by sleeping during the day.

Some people just dont need much sleep.

Jay Leno only sleeps four hours a night...same with Donald Trump.

The shoulderstand (Sarvagasana) exercise in Yoga has the most powerful tranquilizing effect, as well as stretching the hamstrings.
 
Have your thyroid checked.

Insomnia is a classic symptom of hyperthyroidism.

I've never heard that. I do have a good doctor (he's, like, English and stuff and went to Oxford).

ianyway, how have you been feeling latly?
depressed? any anxiaty?

Depressed? No. Anxiety attacks are common in my family. Men, as a general rule are less aware of anxiety attacks (we internalize emotions so much that we may be aware of an anxiety attack only as a fast heart rate and other sundry symptoms). But, I do get them from time to time.

do you drink coffee?

Never. Rarely, I will have a diet Pepsi at breakfast if I'm struggling to wake up. But I mean RARELY. I'm not much of a soda drinker. I also avoid ever eating simple carbs (like sugar or refined flour, which I may consume once a week on Sundays) and I don't eat any carbs after 4pm. I have a strict plan that I follow to a "T".

LOL, does he drink coffee? He's not stupid Asguard. He would have made the coffee/awake connection a long long time ago.

This is why I totally adore you Orly. You're extremely perceptive.

String, Carcano is right.
Get your thyroid checked.

I don't really have much of a weight problem though. The usual "daddy belly" that I struggle to keep in check. It's a good thought though, one that I've never heard during a medical exam. I did go to a sleep clinic about six months ago and they did a pretty thorough checkup. I also had my appendix out a year and a half ago and I had a colonoscopy about a year ago (I have the rear-end of an 80 year old). I keep thinking somebody would have detected such a thing (yeah, I know the thyroid is in the throat and not the ass, but all these doctors poking around... who knows.

But he's GAY.

I am. But, don't tell anybody. They'll think all crazy amounts of anal sex is somehow keeping me awake.

Good point.
String are you getting enough sex? It puts me right to sleep. ;)

Well, sometimes it bores me to sleep. I won't lie, I love--NO--I adore my boyfriend passionately. I would, however, like to bang other guys. I'd be okay if he did, but he's a little on the clingy side and can't fathom the idea of me doing other men. Damn. There are some hotties out there.

Do you work nights?

No. I rotate though. I rarely have trouble waking up. In fact, even with my horrible insomnia, I wake up at 5:30am to feed the cats and relieve myself. I'm usually up "for good" at 8am.

My work schedule rotates but consists the following shifts each week:

Two Days: 6am-2:30pm
Two Days: 8am-4:30pm
One Day: 1pm-10pm

I have insanely bad RLS. I remember thinking, "Oh, what will they come up with next???" when I first heard about it. But it's true. Embarrassingly so. My type of insomnia, as defined by my shrink is a mixture of DSPS and moderate sleep anxiety (characterized by, thoughts like, "Oh my god, I have to wake up tomororw... I only have three hours to get some sleep." etc).

I also have a very hyper-active mind that I can't shut down. When I say, "can't shut down." I mean it races at like a million miles an hour. I ruminate on every subject, good or bad. Everything I've done, doing and am going to do comes in and out of my head at a fairly brisk pace. It's crazy that I've somehow ended up in HR when I can't sit through a single meeting without drifting off into la-la land.

My sleep hygiene is very good. No visible clocks in the room. Absolute darkness (windows covered by a non-transparent cloth that blocks out ALL light). Etc. It sucks and it's weird.

I'm like a newbie so excuse me if I seem to be bothering you . But I know you people would welcome me .
Well, I don't know how did I develop Insomnia, I have been having it since I was 12 years old . It was mild then . It's much worse now (I am 16 now ) . What I have figured out that Insomnia in my case is a result of restlesness of my monkey mind . The prime cause to my this disease is attributed to mental disorder rather than a physical one . I always push myself in whatever I do , try to do better than others , all to uplift my ego and the result is that I my mind wanders from one thing to another . With help of yoga and meditation it seemed to have taken a beating but still I am not able to have a quality sleep .

What I think is that our body has a kind of system, we can never sleep until our body sends the signals to our brain of our tiredness(Mental or physical) . That's why it happens with a person up here(on the page) who just can't sleep without the doing of some brisk excercise .

Another aspect I'd like to discuss about it is the fear. The fear of not being able to sleep . Often people get very conscious and worried if they need some proper sleep for a presentation or something that requires rest . Unknowingly , they bring up the fear , the fear of not being able to sleep . And the more they think about being able to sleep , the more the fear haunts them and they end up getting restless .
The best thing to do in such type of situations is to relax . . . and let go of whatever outcome the absence of a night's sleep might bring .
It's like the more we run after it , the more it runs away from us and more the more we run away from it, the more it runs towards us . :p

Does anybody have an idea about the effects of sleep deprivation?
I am pretty worried about that . Haha .

Thanks for the thoughts, Bluecrux!

Sleep deprivation is bad stuff. I've been through it a million times.

Right now I'm on Lunesta--which is strong stuff--and it works well. I'm taking double the dosage, which my doctor does not recommend but is the ONLY ting that works. I have never built up tolerance to the drug over the past year, which is great, but because the manufacturer has put a "X amount" limit per day, the insurance will only pay that amount per day (even my doctor, however, says that I should follow the instructions). Luckily, though, I don't have to wake up early more than four days a week. So, I only need to take it on the evenings before to ensure a night's rest.

~String
 
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