You have failed to present a valid argument. 
What are you doing in sciforums? Maybe you should go to the Cesspool instead...
What are you doing in sciforums? Maybe you should go to the Cesspool instead...
No kidding, we think the same about whites. Especially, in the past. There was an old movie that I saw in my language that referred to europeans as being like monkeys --- that guy Bush is a case in point!TruthSeeker said:I notice that the shape of their heads is very peculiar and extremely similar to monkeys (no offense...). Urangutans and chimps seem to be the most common ones...
If you are going to try to insult me, please at least do a better job then. Like... what's up with that. :bugeye:iam said:Why are you talking of YOURSELF in the second person? Why don't you repeat after me:
I(truthseeker) have failed to present a valid argument.
I(truthseeker) need to learn to be honest with self, think clearly, and get my mind out of the cesspool or that is what I(truthseeker)will remain.
By the way *truthseeker* doesn't fit you, more like *lieseeker*.
Which movie was that....?Buddha1 said:No kidding, we think the same about whites. Especially, in the past. There was an old movie that I saw in my language that referred to europeans as being like monkeys --- that guy Bush is a case in point!
Buddha1 said:No kidding, we think the same about whites. Especially, in the past. There was an old movie that I saw in my language that referred to europeans as being like monkeys --- that guy Bush is a case in point!
DwayneD.L.Rabon said:So then I guess the argument is about the stature of the asian defined groups/race and how it is compared with the rest of human life on the planet. Have asians been isolated from the rest of the gene pool to cause a decline in the stature of the asian population.
The awnser to that question is yes there stature has been in decline, the systematic effect of inbreeding has taken its course on asians, but just as well it has taken its toll on the other racial groups/ geographical groups common reffered to as black,white,asian, indian, arab ect......all suffer from inbreeding, a decrease in physcial and mental stature. Much of the prefoormance of humans in modern times, that gives modern people the idea that they are better than there ancestors is due to such inventions as books, clothing, clean water, greater food supplys, more rest, medications ect....these things have allowed the function of life to get easier and so modern humans are full of arogance as to the level of there prefomance. there is a difference from generation to generation as the former generation attempts to push the new generation to a better world.
In this proccess and the development of civilzation there are certain aspects to humans stature that are lost and gained, for instance the current modern population of the world could have a higher inbreeding rate than the are ancestors, where in the labor of our ancestors is greater than the daily labor of the current modern population making the physical stature of our ancestors greater that modern people, where this aspect is hidden is the fact that are ancestors have to deal with a harsher enviroment, more daily contact with germs and bacteria ect.... which have caused the short sight of the physcial strenght in the modern school of thought, as the modern school of thought has less burden of such life threating effects but assumes that they are stronger because life is easier with out those germs and bacterias effect on life. example would be wild animal verses domestic animal, a domestic animal released to the wild has only a 50% chance or less of survial,where a wild animal could be at rest domestically and have 100% chance of surival, there is a difference.
The reality is that inbreeding is very real, and i think that people forget this when they get into discussions about the stature of a give racial group of humans, when people inbreeded they still create life, a living being and that being may be able to carry out the functions that contiuned daily living, but the quality of that life may be deminshed/ under difficulty.
So what problems could asians have, is there a gene that has caused for some deminsihed prefomance of asians, is there a gene problem developing in the asian population, what are the root causes of this problem.
So I looked for a problem that might be effecting the stature of the asian population as a whole, this is what i find that may pose a problem, asian do not eat enough food, this is a result of the consumption of rice, the use of rice as a staple to the asian diet,
Rice however is a good source of charbohydrates, and easy to digest much easier than other staples even so the problem with rice is the fact that rice absorbs water and it exspands, this in turn cause the eater to think that they have consumed a large protion of food when they have consumed actually very little food value. This circumstance can prove to be quite damaging if it contiunes for long periods of time, more so for males than females, on the average as females have a more sedimentary life stlye/ relaxed labor. males who preform heavy labor suffcient to establish genetic adpation and development that stablize a population are the most threatened, where under heavy labor there is insufficent time to consume the nessacay amount of a rice based diet to sustain the physical body. In a short period of time this might prove to be benifical to new offspring created, but over time it proves damaging, not only to the male under labor but to the potenial offspriing. As the body labors it consumes more that what is provided by the rice staple diet, the body then begins to consume it self, eventually small groups of cells are consumed, small holes,or pits develope in bone and tissues, this being progressive eventually causes the deteriation of organs, and celluare groups that secrete to the plasma which results in the formation of gene adapted sperm cells, in addtion the sperm cells become deformed.
Given the period of time that rice has been a staple food of the asian group of humans there may some problem that need to be looked at with the food resources.
Humans need to consume a 0.03 pounds of food for each pound of body weight, A asian male that weighs 200 pounds on a rice diet would have to consume 6 pounds of dry rice per day.Once water is added to that rice thats quite a bit of rice to eat in a day.
So then it would seem that the best gene producers of the asian population would be the 18 to 20 year old males, where the most highest performance gropus for human males is the 29 to 40 year old males, none the less it is more than likly that most racial groups of humans fall below the 29 to 40 year mark when in consideration of procreation, reproduction.
DwayneD.L.Rabon
when people inbreeded they still create life, a living being and that being may be able to carry out the functions that contiuned daily living, but the quality of that life may be deminshed/ under difficulty.
So what problems could asians have, is there a gene that has caused for some deminsihed prefomance of asians, is there a gene problem developing in the asian population, what are the root causes of this problem.
In a short period of time this might prove to be benifical to new offspring created, but over time it proves damaging, not only to the male under labor but to the potenial offspriing. As the body labors it consumes more that what is provided by the rice staple diet, the body then begins to consume it self, eventually small groups of cells are consumed, small holes,or pits develope in bone and tissues, this being progressive eventually causes the deteriation of organs, and celluare groups that secrete to the plasma which results in the formation of gene adapted sperm cells, in addtion the sperm cells become deformed.
Facial said:Not merely just a movie. In ancient China, it was almost universally accepted that Europeans were barbarians not unlike that of hairy monkeys.
That being said, I actually agree partially with the observation that some Asians' faces resemble orangutans and apes - I don't really know why. Partial in the sense that the resemblence isn't exclusively limited to Asians.
DwayneD.L.Rabon said:What we need to do is get a program started and funded, possibly by the world health organization of united nations, that educates asians on eatting.
Asians need to eat more food, to stay healthy because their diet is based on a rice staple that is 50 to 75 % water,once cooked. Asians need to understand that they need to eat 0.03 pounds of food for each 1 pound body weight. and that must be dry weight food, not water soaked foods.
Such a program will be benifical to asian health and reduce genetic damages, and put the best gene production back in the 29 to 40 year range, where the highest perfomance group is.
Considering the one child per couple law in china, the United Nations should consider political disscusion with china about allowing more or opening immagartion to china, encouraging a inlet for biological insugence of new gentic material. to safe guard the biological stature of china.
DwayneD.L.Rabon
Not that it is of too much relevance, but if you hung around with zebras "EVERY DAY [sic]," and I mean different zebras, they just herd around you. Would you notice distinct features that baby zebras see when they look for their mother?So... I live in southern British Columbia and here I see and hear asians speak EVERY DAY.
I tried reading all the posts in between, but it just agve me a big fat headache. So I will ask this question, even if it had been asked before: Which features? let me into you insight. Don't just say, "They do." What features? Do I have to post a picture of the "Urangutans [sic] and chimps?"I was observing them yesterday and for the firts time I noticed something very interesting which gave me some new insights. I notice that the shape of their heads is very peculiar and extremely similar to monkeys (no offense...). Urangutans and chimps seem to be the most common ones...
I would say that is a fair observation. But I must ask you, what health problems? All peoples have perhaps equal amounts health problems. You can say this isn't important, but in order to base an observation with "other factors that increase my suspicio n [sic]," I must see these health problems.That's when I started to ask myself why (well, duh!). Maybe they mated so much with each other that their appearance didn't change!? Maybe that's the greatest proof of evolution (or lack of thereof)!. There are other factors that increase my suspicio n on that matter. For instance, they have lots of health problems which could have been caused by trading genes too close (like incest...). Incest is known to cause genetic problems. And that's because their genes are too close to each other. This is also the reason why people from very different backgrounds create very healthy and beautiful babies. Nature likes diversity and evolution rewards it. So maybe asians were "punished" by nature for sleeping too close together...
Similar languages, eh? I know a certain East Asian language, yet when I encounter another East Asian language, I can't even pull similarities like I can pull with English and German (both are largely influenced by Germanic languages, even though English was also influenced with French and Latin). How is that possible? :bugeye: You think a largely interbreeding 'race' would know their sleeping partners' languages! Mandarin and Japanese should be easier than German and English!The other thing that clued me in was their language. Notice that all the asians that have similar languages (that is chinese, japanese and korean) all look alike. That's why they bred with each other. So the language is also very similar. When you go south to india and vietnam, you see different-looking people and their language is also different! So right here I'm implying a causation from this correlation- that is, that those two groups didn't breed much. Then look at the geography! What is between China and India? The largest mountain in the world! Which is why they didn't breed much. The same goes for China and Russia. There's a huge desert between them.
Before I began, I'd like to remind you to explain those problems that I have asked for above.This all suggest that the Chinese, Japanese and Korean people were very much isolated from the rest of the world. That's why their language, their culture and their genes are so peculiar. If technology hasn't made it possible, they would probably have become a different species in a few million years. But now with globalization, it seems that the asians will blend more and more with us, and someday, their problems will hopefully have disappeared.
I support evolution, but just because someone says evolution, I don't say it is right.I think this same kind of logic can be used to infer the history of mankind and the validity of evolution. Also etymology, geography and many other things.
DwayneD.L.Rabon said:What we need to do is get a program started and funded, possibly by the world health organization of united nations, that educates asians on eatting.
Asians need to eat more food, to stay healthy because their diet is based on a rice staple that is 50 to 75 % water,once cooked. Asians need to understand that they need to eat 0.03 pounds of food for each 1 pound body weight. and that must be dry weight food, not water soaked foods.
Such a program will be benifical to asian health and reduce genetic damages, and put the best gene production back in the 29 to 40 year range, where the highest perfomance group is.
Considering the one child per couple law in china, the United Nations should consider political disscusion with china about allowing more or opening immagartion to china, encouraging a inlet for biological insugence of new gentic material. to safe guard the biological stature of china.
DwayneD.L.Rabon
That's true.iam said:Are you trying to be an arse or are you just a stupid arse?? The western population "NEEDS" to be educated on their 'eating habits'! Way too much protein and fat.
And diabetes and obesity. But I'm not sure he is a fool. Maybe he has a reason to think the way he does. You have to ask him for his source of information...THEY ARE DYING OF CANCER AND HEART DISEASE! FOOL!
Again, I don't see him insulting asians. You are just taking the discussion too personally...I hurl insults at those who are insulting others without cause, such as yourself, insulting asians with your condescending perverted rhetoric.
Personally, I too think they are. Greek people are healthier tough, cause they eat lots of olive oil and other things that increase their life-span.ASIANS ARE VERY HEALTHY PEOPLE.
You are making an assumption. He never mentioned any of that.The reason china has a one child law is to control the population. THE REASON WHY THERE ARE SO MANY ASIANS IS BECAUSE THEY LIVE A DAMN LONG TIME BECAUSE THEY TEND TO BE ON THE HEALTHY SIDE.
I'm not sure asians are perfectly genetic healthy. In fact, I don't think that is possible with any species.WHICH MAKES YOUR FAKE CONCERN A LAUGHINGSTOCK BUT WORSE A REAL INSULT AIMED AT ASIANS CONSIDERING THERE IS NO PROBLEM.
I don't know. Haven't been around them before. But zebras are different. Birds are also different. I can see the differences between a chinese and a japanese person, for example. But I can see the differences between two different flys or elephants. I think it has to do with the species as a whole.Renrue said:Not that it is of too much relevance, but if you hung around with zebras "EVERY DAY [sic]," and I mean different zebras, they just herd around you. Would you notice distinct features that baby zebras see when they look for their mother?
I sure wouldn't. They all look the same to me (no offense zebras).
The cheek bones are a distinct feature of asians.I tried reading all the posts in between, but it just agve me a big fat headache. So I will ask this question, even if it had been asked before: Which features? let me into you insight. Don't just say, "They do." What features? Do I have to post a picture of the "Urangutans [sic] and chimps?"
Ok. An example is dental health. Asians often don't have the best dental health. For example, a friend of mine who lived in China for 10 years observed that, with all the respect, chinese people don't have the best dental health. They also don't have the best dentists, she said. She avoided going to the dentist there after witnessing what they did with one of her friends..I would say that is a fair observation. But I must ask you, what health problems? All peoples have perhaps equal amounts health problems. You can say this isn't important, but in order to base an observation with "other factors that increase my suspicio n [sic]," I must see these health problems.
They are very similar, particularly in writting. I totally agree that the same is not true to their pronounciation.Similar languages, eh? I know a certain East Asian language, yet when I encounter another East Asian language, I can't even pull similarities like I can pull with English and German (both are largely influenced by Germanic languages, even though English was also influenced with French and Latin). How is that possible? You think a largely interbreeding 'race' would know their sleeping partners' languages! Mandarin and Japanese should be easier than German and English!
Yes, that's absolutely true. But it is easier for vietnamese people to breed with indian people. That's why those two look more similar to each other. You see, when you analize how different cultures and people are connected, you have to take into consideration what is being interchanged. Sometimes, they interchange genes. Other times, they interchange culture, philosophy, religion, language etc.By the way, China is connected to Vietnam, which you stated, "When you go south to india and vietnam, you see different-looking people and their language is also different!" In fact, Vietnam is very largely influenced by China, as I remember someone stating about lower kingdom and central kingdom.
Is there anywhere in the thread I stated this is a theory? No. Therefore, it is a hypothesis.I support evolution, but just because someone says evolution, I don't say it is right.Like all scientific processes (or a debate!), please support with evidence instead of observations. Because if you are just stating observations, you can see why some people have hostility and infer racial suggestions from you.
Okay, just wondering.I don't know. Haven't been around them before. But zebras are different. Birds are also different. I can see the differences between a chinese and a japanese person, for example. But I can see the differences between two different flys or elephants. I think it has to do with the species as a whole.
So, is it just the East Asians that look like monkeys? Or the human race at whole? Seems you are moving away from the whole East Asian incest hypothesis. Perhaps your lineage was full of incest?The cheek bones are a distinct feature of asians.
But as a note, humans often look like monkeys. That's because they supposedly came from monkeys. I've looked like a monkey since I was a kid. Specially my ears. Hehe...they are so hideous...![]()
Dental health could be related to not having the best dentists.Ok. An example is dental health. Asians often don't have the best dental health. For example, a friend of mine who lived in China for 10 years observed that, with all the respect, chinese people don't have the best dental health. They also don't have the best dentists, she said. She avoided going to the dentist there after witnessing what they did with one of her friends..
True, you see Asians with so-called slanted eyes, but all human eyeballs are the same. Yup, you heard me, same sizes. Just the opening of the eyes are different. Though, I don't think "rangutans [sic] and chimps" have slanted eyes. Also, you can observe African descent and find some of them have slanted eyes.The eyes are another thing. I wonder if they work well, given that they are so small. Huumm... but that I really don't know about...
That can be said the same to Europeans. All use Arabic lettering. I actually have no idea how this relates to incest.They are very similar, particularly in writting. I totally agree that the same is not true to their pronounciation.
Again, I've lost touch on what's going on. Such as, Celts had runes until Romans and Anglo-Saxons came along. Still, you claim Europeans are not as incestive as East Asians, even with the same situations.I believe that is due to the development of the languages. When chinese and japanese came together, they already had a completely different set of words and sounds. But the japanese, in particular, didn't have a similar pronounciation structure. But when the chinese expanded into japanese with buddhism, the japanese was influence by the chinese in many ways. Writting is one of them.
You do know Thailand is to the West of Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam? I'm guessing they are not part of you incest hypothesis. But, as you can see, see how easy the Chinese can access route with India? As for the Koreans, and your point is? I'm losing track of how this relates to the incest thing that makes them look more like other primates.The Korean is another excellent example about my hypothesis. They were basically a part of the chinese. Then they didn't want to be anymore and they created a language completely out of nothing, just to differentiate themselves from the chinsese people! The same happened with the Thai people.
Buddhism originated near India. The reason it became so wide-spread with China is because? You guessed it, they met before. They should look like the Viets!Yes, that's absolutely true. But it is easier for vietnamese people to breed with indian people. That's why those two look more similar to each other. You see, when you analize how different cultures and people are connected, you have to take into consideration what is being interchanged. Sometimes, they interchange genes. Other times, they interchange culture, philosophy, religion, language etc.
Then me persuading you should be easier!Is there anywhere in the thread I stated this is a theory? No. Therefore, it is a hypothesis.![]()
Thank you. I hope you have another batch of answers for me.Thanks for your questions. They were really good questions, and that's why I'm giving more answers.![]()