Neh. I've been compared to chimpanzees before, wehn I was a kid. I find it rather entertaining...shadowpuppet said:anyone else here asian? anyone else find it a bit infuriating to be compared to an orangutan?
Neh. I've been compared to chimpanzees before, wehn I was a kid. I find it rather entertaining...shadowpuppet said:anyone else here asian? anyone else find it a bit infuriating to be compared to an orangutan?
Welcome Iam, but calm down a little.iam said:You have a common one-track mind and an inability to think outside the box. This is not necessarily so. Evolution needs "resources" only. It does not necessarily need paul from africa and jenny from europe to get its job done. That is as absurd and stupid as saying chinese food is not real food or as nourishing because it is not italian, french, etc etc. Chinese have evolved the way they have because of their environment and resources and it blows your theory smack out of the water because they have been doing "exceptionally" well compared to what you refer to as 'genetic diversity'. You are being racist and prejudicial towards asian and not only that but insinuating and implying that asians are not as 'evolved' which is a pathetically slimy and stupid observation from you significantly because closer to the real truth is that it is probably the other way around! Did you say that you were brazilian??? Of all the "races" on this planet, the overall hispanic population are known to be a combination of all three races, negroid, caucasoid, and mongoloid but no one in their right mind would consider them at the top of the human food chain? So why is this? What's the excuse according to your brilliant theory and brainpower? lol, I guess just because a whole lotta this and that is thrown into a pot its not necessarily going to turn out better? huh? Do I detect a bit of jealousy turned into nitpicking and condescension to compensate. You should be ashamed of yourself. How about an analogy of the daimond. I think its fitting.
Boast not of an art you know nothing of. Comprende
Chinese have evolved the way they have because of their environment and resources and it blows your theory smack out of the water because they have been doing "exceptionally" well compared to what you refer to as 'genetic diversity'.
Truthseekers reply, "What are you talking about?"
”
This is not necessarily so. Evolution needs "resources" only.
Truthseekers reply. Aha. How intelligent. So what does "resources" mean in your little mind? ”
That is as absurd and stupid as saying chinese food is not real food or as nourishing because it is not italian, french, etc etc.
Truthseekers reply, This is a ridiculous analogy that has absolutely nothing to do with whatever I said.
”
Watching a few hundreds or thousands and you conclude that the other billions are the same? Well, maybe you should plan a trip to China and visit some inner big cities where the people who rarely immigrant to North America. You will then understand you haven't even see the tip of the iceberg.TruthSeeker said:So... I live in southern British Columbia and here I see and hear asians speak EVERY DAY.![]()
So you don't believe the human species is diverse? Who is the "common idiot" again?iam said:Again, I say you are a "COMMON IDIOT." I question your motives? Why do you "insist" on your so-called diversity? What do you mean, they evolved 'differently'? Differently from whom? what? Caucasians? Africans? Now really??? Isn't that amazing!!! lololol
You are barely making sense.As for the 'food chain' your brain is so tiny I suppose you are incapable of comprenhension beyond traditional lines of thought( Again, common idiot). There is a 'human food chain' and you can see it in all levels of 'society', in a microcosm of one society that stretches and encompasses a larger macroscopic one in which evolutionary power struggles are at play on a larger scale.
Yes.Uhh, have you ever heard of 'wars?
yes. Mostly plutocracyare there not class levels within society? heirarchy?
Metaphorically, yes. Sort of.Is this not a food chain of sorts.
Of course it exists. I've seen it before.Slavery? Do you think these things don't EXIST ANYMORE?????!!!
People often choose to be in that position because they are too afraid to fight for their freedom.LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, IF I MAKE MONEY OFF OF YOUR BACK-BREAKING WORK, THAT IS A "HUUMANN FOOD CHAIN." ALRIGHT BUDDY??
I imply the more diversified you are the more evolved you are. Why do you think humans are the most evolved? Because they only eat eggs? :bugeye:iam said:As for race issues, you imply the more of a mutt you are the more 'evolved' you are.
Why would we?Again, I use you as an example and the larger hispanic population and culture. Why haven't you ruled the world?
Your definition of "evolution" is very ignorant.I don't particularly see spanish culture and history as being the cream of the crop considering how muttish you are, this should not be!! Oh my!
Wow. What an argument. And what an evidence!You are an idiot all the way around and through. period
Oh wow. You are so brilliant. You arguments are so great.heh, as for my intelligence? I'm absolutely brilliant because I can cut through bs and get to the truth and the truth is the real objective.
Is that wrong. Fine. Let's completely ignore statistics and stop teaching it at schools.daktaklakpak said:Watching a few hundreds or thousands and you conclude that the other billions are the same?
TruthSeeker said:Is that wrong. Fine. Let's completely ignore statistics and stop teaching it at schools.
TruthSeeker said:I imply the more diversified you are the more evolved you are. Why do you think humans are the most evolved? Because they only eat eggs? :bugeye:
Why would we?
Your definition of "evolution" is very ignorant.
Wow. What an argument. And what an evidence!
Oh wow. You are so brilliant. You arguments are so great.![]()
Some teenagers really know nothing about life...![]()
None.spuriousmonkey said:What kind of statistical test did you do?
I am negating my own argument? How? Give me an example.iam said:You're not only ignorant which is okay because we are all ignorant of something but deceptive because you're negating your own original argument.
I am talking about genetics here. I'm not saying that genetics is the only reason why we survive. Yes we need resources, we need many external things other then genetics. Genetics is only one element for survival.You are the one that does not understand evolution at all. You believe that different "races" must join as in reproduce offspring in order to further evolution. This was your argument not mine. That is not the case. They need resources only.
They were used according to their genetic composition as well as their respective circumstances. Just take a look at twin studies in psychology.Cromagnon man and neanderthal lived side by side but evidently cromagnon was able to survive and thrive just fine, this is soley due to the resources and how it was used.
Where do I said that?So if a farmer in africa learned to count his pigs, you believe that is unique genetically?
Again, where did I say that?So someone halfway around the globe couldn't figure out the same.
I don't think you understand my argument. I never said they were less evolved, I said they have preserved more genes because they were isolated. That's a perfect acceptable hypothesis. And yes, we are just all different. Do you think you are better then eagles? Or the eagles are better then you? Well, the answer is neither. Eagles are just different. They are as perfect and as imperfect as you are.Your argument is that silly. You were insinuating asians are not as evolved, though you played innocent after you were called on it by calling them 'different', due to genetic isolation where in evolutionary terms that is a moot point.
That's silly. It is not necessary. Nature has never considered evolution as status quo. Evolution is just a way to diversify life, so that life can survive. It is not about who is on the top of the food chain, what matters is that life goes on. And unfortunately not many people in this world think like that.Are you not as evolved because you can't procreate with a fish and therefore have lungs and gills?
How it can hinder? Give me an example, please.Then you'd really be set, huh? No, we all started from the ocean, doesn't mean we need to go back. Sometimes genetic diversity can benefit, sometimes it can hinder.
Oh yes, absolutely! That's the whole point of diversity!It all depends on what those genes are, the environment you're interacting with and a whole cornucopia of other factors.
Have I ever said they didn't?The asian continent is the largest on this planet with an amazing amount of natural resources just like the rest of the planet. I'm telling you they had what they needed.
You are having too many status quo perceptions. Don't confuse resources with genetics, they are two different things. Yes, resources are significant when it comes to survival, but you should never confuse them or ignore one of them in detriment of the other.Again, if you don't know what resources are, look it up in the dictionary. I'm telling you that your understanding is erroneous.
Yes. Have I said otherwise?And no one has everything genetically and they never will. Evolution doesn't stand still and it reacts only to its environment.
Well, of course.If we all had the same environment, genetic diversity of which you speak of would cease to exist and therefore eventually there would be a lack of diversity.
Well, yes, we have been sheltered. But that is our own work.This is the way it works. But fortunately for you, this is probably the direction this planet is headed anyways. Not simply because of the racial diversity but our environment. As an example, we are sheltered from natural elements, those same elements that produced our physical attributes.
Yes, it is rather ironic that diversity will eventually create unification. I'm not sure if genetic unification is very efficient. But I think this easy access to diversity will be very good for human relations and psychology...There is greater food mileage. Those in Japan can go to kfc for lunch and have sushi for dinner as you can do the same here. Eventually a very long way from now if the human race survives, we will be very similar due to our environment and lifestyle.
You too. Thanks for discussing it properly this time.Have a nice day.
Code:This is the way it works. But fortunately for you, this is probably the direction this planet is headed anyways. Not simply because of the racial diversity but our environment. As an example, we are sheltered from natural elements, those same elements that produced our physical attributes.
Well, yes, we have been sheltered. But that is our own work.
”
You are having too many status quo perceptions. Don't confuse resources with genetics, they are two different things. Yes, resources are significant when it comes to survival, but you should never confuse them or ignore one of them in detriment of the other.
Translation, "We will get what we percieve we are lacking or crush the competition." meaning YOU not just the chinese as you convince your partitioned deceitful little brain.Yes, it is rather ironic that diversity will eventually create unification
Evolution is just a way to diversify life, so that life can survive.
They were used according to their genetic composition as well as their respective circumstances. Just take a look at twin studies in psychology.
I am talking about genetics here. I'm not saying that genetics is the only reason why we survive. Yes we need resources, we need many external things other then genetics. Genetics is only one element for survival.
I said they have preserved more genes because they were isolated
I never said they were less evolved, I said they have preserved more genes because they were isolated
It is not about who is on the top of the food chain, what matters is that life goes on. And unfortunately not many people in this world think like that.
TruthSeeker said:So... I live in southern British Columbia and here I see and hear asians speak EVERY DAY.![]()
I was observing them yesterday and for the firts time I noticed something very interesting which gave me some new insights. I notice that the shape of their heads is very peculiar and extremely similar to monkeys (no offense...). Urangutans and chimps seem to be the most common ones...
That's when I started to ask myself why (well, duh!). Maybe they mated so much with each other that their appearance didn't change!? Maybe that's the greatest proof of evolution (or lack of thereof)!. There are other factors that increase my suspicio n on that matter. For instance, they have lots of health problems which could have been caused by trading genes too close (like incest...). Incest is known to cause genetic problems. And that's because their genes are too close to each other. This is also the reason why people from very different backgrounds create very healthy and beautiful babies. Nature likes diversity and evolution rewards it. So maybe asians were "punished" by nature for sleeping too close together...
The other thing that clued me in was their language. Notice that all the asians that have similar languages (that is chinese, japanese and korean) all look alike. That's why they bred with each other. So the language is also very similar. When you go south to india and vietnam, you see different-looking people and their language is also different! So right here I'm implying a causation from this correlation- that is, that those two groups didn't breed much. Then look at the geography! What is between China and India? The largest mountain in the world! Which is why they didn't breed much. The same goes for China and Russia. There's a huge desert between them.
This all suggest that the Chinese, Japanese and Korean people were very much isolated from the rest of the world. That's why their language, their culture and their genes are so peculiar. If technology hasn't made it possible, they would probably have become a different species in a few million years. But now with globalization, it seems that the asians will blend more and more with us, and someday, their problems will hopefully have disappeared.
I think this same kind of logic can be used to infer the history of mankind and the validity of evolution. Also etymology, geography and many other things.
This is also the reason why people from very different backgrounds create very healthy and beautiful babies. Nature likes diversity and evolution rewards it.
So... I live in southern British Columbia and here I see and hear asians speak EVERY DAY.![]()
Maybe they mated so much with each other that their appearance didn't change!? Maybe that's the greatest proof of evolution (or lack of thereof)!
For instance, they have lots of health problems which could have been caused by trading genes too close (like incest...)
Nature likes diversity and evolution rewards it. So maybe asians were "punished" by nature for sleeping too close together...
This all suggest that the Chinese, Japanese and Korean people were very much isolated from the rest of the world. That's why their language, their culture and their genes are so peculiar. If technology hasn't made it possible, they would probably have become a different species in a few million years. But now with globalization, it seems that the asians will blend more and more with us, and someday, their problems will hopefully have disappeared.