"ILLEGAL ALIEN" Dies on Hospital After Being Ignored for 45 Minutes
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911 takes people TO the hospital
Sam, If you had ever been in an American hospital you would know that most of the staff- Doctors and Nurses included are from INDIA, and other struggling nations. A doctor named HUSSEIN saved my aunts life a few moths ago...so what:shrug:
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Sounds like you don't. Cause she didn't get what she expected, did she?
They go to the US because they BELIEVE (KEYWORD! KEYWORD!) they are going to get a better life. Sadly, they fall for a big lie...
They can take people from one hospital to another, when a hospital is having a problem. For example, if it is in the middle of the night and a neurologist is needed. Usually is when a hospital doesn't have enough equipment to treat the patient. Anyways... just a comment...911 takes people TO the hospital
Sounds like you don't. Cause she didn't get what she expected, did she?
They go to the US because they BELIEVE (KEYWORD! KEYWORD!) they are going to get a better life. Sadly, they fall for a big lie...
dont you think their relatives would tell them...dummy.
But you dont call them.
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The Hospital in question is known for such incidents. It's easily one of the worst hospitals in the US. I am sad the woman died, but that might have happened no matter what. I was appaled by the second 911 operator
the doctors can lose their liscences for that ignoring someone dying is a big no-no of the hippacratic oath
What the hell is wrong with you?
What the hell do I have to do with this story?
Back off already. You're getting annoying.
he's refering to your veiws on illegal immagrints and how doctors ignoring them and them dying fits in with your stated ethics. glad i couyld clear that up for you
Warped.
Bells
Staff member
Reverse the situation. If a US citizen entered Mexico illegally and then demanded immediate healthcare at a hospital there, he would be laughed into his grave.
I think the point you are missing is how any person can be left to die in a hospital without receiving any care.
This is not about an illegal immigrant not receiving care. It is about a woman not receiving care in a hospital. Her immigration status is not important. The same thing could have happened to anyone at all, even a US citizen. Yes it happens, but it should not happen.
The topic of the thread is "ILLEGAL ALIEN" Dies on Hospital After Being Ignored.
No. No one should be left to die.
Would the Mexican government pay for YOUR emregency treatment? Oh hell no. Would they treat you at their hospital if they knew you were a criminal alien? Oh hell no.
I don't think we know the whole story of the woman. When I worked in a hospital there were things most people never knew/saw.
No. No one should be left to die.
Would the Mexican government pay for YOUR emregency treatment? Oh hell no. Would they treat you at their hospital if they knew you were a criminal alien? Oh hell no.
I don't think we know the whole story of the woman. When I worked in a hospital there were things most people never knew/saw.
Bells
Staff member
The title is meant to stir debate. But the true debate should be about a health system that has bred medical professionals to not do what they are meant to do.
So because the Mexican government may not pay for emergency treatment, the US should do the same? Sink to their level? And here I thought the US was trying to hold itself above everyone else.
It is not a question of paying. It is a question of human decency. The legality of the patients immigration status should not be determined before they receive care. A doctor should not stand idly by and do nothing as a person dies. This is not about the Mexican government. This is about the health care system that has become complacent and doctors failing to exercise a level of care that they are supposedly trained and meant to give.
What do you need to know about the woman that would alter the ending? She was sick, went to a hospital and was ignored as she died. What she was or may have done prior to her going to the hospital should have no bearing on the "story".
And just how far should that "human decency" go, Bells? I mean, should "human decency" force us to apply those same rules to other countries of the world?
If you talk of "human decency", does that apply to the poverty-stricken people of Mexico? Of India? Of Africa? People in those places die all the time while little or nothing is done for them.
And if it does not apply to all humans, all over the world, then "human decency" must only apply to certain "humans", huh?
Baron Max
Bells, please don't taunt it.
Thank you.
All that are arguing about whether "the government" should pay for the care that she needed are missing the point. A hospital (at least in the US) is legally obligated to provide care for a life-threatening emergency.
As for it being a race issue, it is. Not because she was illegal, but because she was poor, not because she was Hispanic, but because she was poor, and because she was poor and Hispanic she went to MLK -- to this hospital:
http://www.nationalreview.com/dunphy/dunphy200404080849.asp
The ethical issue here isn't the idea of most people being evil, that Truthseeker would like to convey. The ethical issue is - does a person have an innate right to medical care?
Thank you.
All that are arguing about whether "the government" should pay for the care that she needed are missing the point. A hospital (at least in the US) is legally obligated to provide care for a life-threatening emergency.
As for it being a race issue, it is. Not because she was illegal, but because she was poor, not because she was Hispanic, but because she was poor, and because she was poor and Hispanic she went to MLK -- to this hospital:
http://www.nationalreview.com/dunphy/dunphy200404080849.asp
The ethical issue here isn't the idea of most people being evil, that Truthseeker would like to convey. The ethical issue is - does a person have an innate right to medical care?
Are they really? I know that they're "supposed to", but is it the law?
And I ask because just recently a news story I heard was complaining about ambulances being refused care at some closer hospitals and they had to drive a lot further to be admitted to emergency service. So ...how can a hospital refuse to see an emergency/ambulance patient if it's the law???
Baron Max
Baron:
I am going to say yes, but this is only based on what I was told after a car accident years ago. I was uninsured at the time, and trying to yank off the restraining neck-brace while insisting that I was fine, and couldn't pay anyway. Maybe they were just trying to calm me down.
Anyways, I went to the doctor about a week ago, and I noticed the same thing on a sign.
I'd be interested in what a lawyer (do we have a lawyer in the house?) would say.
I am going to say yes, but this is only based on what I was told after a car accident years ago. I was uninsured at the time, and trying to yank off the restraining neck-brace while insisting that I was fine, and couldn't pay anyway. Maybe they were just trying to calm me down.
Anyways, I went to the doctor about a week ago, and I noticed the same thing on a sign.
I'd be interested in what a lawyer (do we have a lawyer in the house?) would say.