If God is real, how would you know?

Jan Ardena said:
Because you would “hope” that nothing bad happens to them. Your facts, at that point is useless.
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Hope - a feeling of expectation and desire for a certain thing to happen.

You keep tossing them in and I keep hitting them out of the park. Too easy.
 
(Q) said:
Now, you're talking nonsense. Truth is that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality, it has very little to do with faith. Faith is strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof. They are almost opposite of each other.
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I disagree with that definition. Faith in God is knowing the truth of God.
 
Jan Ardena said:
Who are you accusing of being ignorant?
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You might want to read the post again to find out the answer to that. It's right there in black and white.
Is that the truth? If you believe it is, did you learn that truth from an institute of learning?
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In part yes.
If you didn’t, but still regard it as the truth, do you think the same process you used to come to that understanding, is;
1. Naturally available in all humans
2. Available only to those that have been institutionally trained.
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It is a latent talent in many people. It, like all talent, is lost if it is not used and developed. Schools are, in general, the best places to do that.
 
Jan Ardena said:
That would depend on their religion.
One can be religious and not be theist.
Just as one can not be religious and be a theist.
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No, you can't. Religion is belief in a supernatural power. God is a supernatural power. If you believe in God, by definition you believe in religion.
 
billvon said:
No, you can't. Religion is belief in a supernatural power.
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Not necessarily.
Religion is not just about belief.
It is about lifestyle, ethics, perception, and all the other things that go to make us what are, how we act, and how we react.
Jim Jones’s religion was a prime example.
It turned out that the religion was antithetical to God. It was never about God. But people still believed in Jim Jones, who as it turned out, was the object of worship, hence his religion was practiced.
God is a supernatural power. If you believe in God, by definition you believe in religion.
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Religion is not really something you believe in, from a theist perspective. God is the object of belief.
 
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kx000 said:
I disagree with that definition. Faith in God is knowing the truth of God.
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Faith and truth are not the same thing. The truth in God lies in the facts of God, of which there are none. No facts, no truth.
 
billvon said:
You might want to read the post again to find out the answer to that. It's right there in black and white.
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Okay.
But who learns nothing?
How is it possible to survive?
Do animals learn nothing?
billvon said:
It is a latent talent in many people. It, like all talent, is lost if it is not used and developed. Schools are, in general, the best places to do that.
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What is this based on?
 
Jan Ardena said:
Not necessarily.
Religion is not just about belief.
It is about lifestyle, ethics, perception, and all the other things that go to make us what are, how we act, and how we react.
Jim Jones’s religion was a prime example.
It turned out that the religion was antithetical to God.
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Religion is the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods, a particular system of faith and worship. It doesn't say anything about lifestyle, ethics, perception, what you are, how you act or react. You're just making stuff up again.

Both the Independent Assemblies of God International, a pentecostal Christian association and The Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), a Mainline Protestant Christian denomination are both religions in which Jim Jones was ordained. How can you say they weren't religions?
 
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