ICE agents murder bystanders in Minneapolis

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parmalee

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Officials in Minneapolis reported a shooting involving federal agents on Wednesday, with local sources claiming that a female driver who was observing Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents was shot in the face.

Federal authorities have been conducting a major immigration enforcement operation in the Minnesota city in recent days tied in part to allegations of fraud involving Somali residents.
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Video posted to social media showed two vehicles that appeared to have collided. The driving wheel airbag of one the vehicles had deployed and appeared to show blood on it.

In the footage, bystanders can been seen and heard blowing whistles and taunting the federal agents, telling them to go home. A woman said she spoke to an eyewitness who told her the person shot was a woman who “took off” from federal agents.

“They shot her through the windshield. They shot her in the face,” the woman said.
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www.theguardian.com

Shooting reported amid federal immigration crackdown in Minneapolis

Authorities respond as federal officers launch major operation targeting Somali residents
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Nothing to add here, just more of the usual. Murderous thugs doing what murderous thugs do, while some people who are otherwise reasonable continue to pretend that the persons who support such are simply ignorant and misguided, as opposed to the bigoted, dangerous idiots that they truly are.
 
Here is footage of the actual murder (timestamped at 1:55):


Nothing "defensive" whatsoever. These "people" are abominations and need to be stopped.
 
parmalee said:
Nothing to add here, just more of the usual. Murderous thugs doing what murderous thugs do, while some people who are otherwise reasonable continue to pretend that the persons who support such are simply ignorant and misguided, as opposed to the bigoted, dangerous idiots that they truly are.
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Well, someone who fires a lethal shot at an unarmed person who is not a threat is what happens when a LE division hurries to recruit and doesn't filter out those unfit to serve. Plenty of sociopaths or borderline people out there who would love a job with a legal pretext to shoot people - and screening procedures should be in place to catch them and divert them to desk duty...or just reject. This is what happens when America votes in a sociopath racist who has sworn to deport a million per year. The only way to remotely approach those numbers is to recruit en masse and sloppily, and then target law-abiding residents who've been in their community for years and (if having criminal records) paid their debt to society.

Turnip policies reliably kill innocent humans. He is a spawn of the devil, and the hideous combover is necessary to cover the triple six birthmark. (speaking metaphorically)
 
Here's an image of the murderer, as yet unidentified:

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Hopefully, someone will find this useful. Please share and distribute widely.

Also, Tim Walz has issued a "warning order" to the Minnesota National Guard, in the event that they need to be called up to protect their own citizens from the fascist thugs:
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" Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz (D) said that he has issued a “warning order” to prepare the Minnesota National Guard after a woman was fatally shot by an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officer in Minneapolis on Wednesday morning.
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In response to the governor’s warning order, Schaefer said the agency has begun preparations in the event the guard is activated, including equipment checks and notifying service members.

“To Minnesotans, on the National Guard, they’re there to protect you and protect your constitutional rights,” Walz said. “These are our neighbors. They don’t wear masks. They don’t bust in from somewhere else. They’re not here to cause hassles to you or what we saw today, the tragedy.” "
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From MN public radio....

Minneapolis Public Schools on Wednesday canceled classes district-wide for the remainder of the week “due to safety concerns,” following the killing of a woman Wednesday by an ICE agent. The district said it was acting “out of an abundance of caution.”

The move came after officials at Roosevelt High School said armed U.S. Border Patrol officers came on school property during dismissal Wednesday and began tackling people, handcuffed two staff members and released chemical weapons on bystanders. (...)
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“The guy, I’m telling him like, ‘Please step off the school grounds,’ and this dude comes up and bumps into me and then tells me that I pushed him, and he’s trying to push me, and he knocked me down,” a school official, who spoke to MPR News on condition of anonymity said.

“They don’t care. They’re just animals,” the official added. “I’ve never seen people behave like this.”
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“There’s a car that got hit. I don’t know how it got hit. They broke out the window,” the school official said. “Then different Neighborhood Watch, people, everybody, people, the staff in the school came out. And then they started coming on the property of the school and pushing people and tackling people and shooting pepper spray and pepper balls. And they handcuffed two of our employees.”

Video shared with MPR News show armed, masked officers with apparent Border Patrol insignia on their uniforms dragging a person on a sidewalk outside of the high school and tussling with another person as bystanders blow whistles and shout.
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So, "Minnesota Nice" meets Sturmabteilung.
 
The official story of the US Government:

"The woman screaming was, obviously, a professional agitator, and the woman driving the car was very disorderly, obstructing and resisting, who then violently, willfully, and viciously ran over the ICE Officer, who seems to have shot her in self defense. Based on the attached clip, it is hard to believe he is alive."

When reporters asked him why the video clip did not show the victim running over anyone, Trump replied:

"She behaved horribly. And then she ran him over. She didn’t try to run him over. She ran him over.”

George Orwell, from 1984:

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”​

 
As a child I was told that we have the second amendment in case we need to arm ourselves for protection from our own government.

Just sayin....
 
Wizard of Whatever said:
He actually did get brushed by the car, not run over. However, his reaction was that of an angry bull. not one of a trained officer.
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It seems he did not "get brushed by" the car. There is certainly video footage that, taken in isolation, might suggest that, but when looked at along with other synchronised footage, it seems that noone was hit by a car.

www.nytimes.com

Video: Videos Contradict Trump Administration Account of ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

An analysis of footage from three camera angles show that the vehicle appears to be turning away from a federal officer as he opened fire.
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"He [The agent that killed the driver] walks around the car filming and disappears from view. Other agents pull up and order the driver to exit her vehicle. One of them grabs at the door handle and reaches inside. The SUV reverses, then turns right, apparently attempting to leave. At the same time, the agent filming crosses toward the left of the vehicle and grabs his gun. He opens fire on the motorist and continues shooting as she drives past. The moment the agent fires, he is standing here to the left of the SUV and the wheels are pointing to the right away from the agent. This appears to conflict with allegations that the SUV was ramming or about to ram the officer. President Trump and others said the federal agent was hit by the SUV, often pointing to another video filmed from a different angle. And it’s true that at this moment, in this grainy, low-resolution footage, it does look like the agent is being struck by the SUV. But when we synchronize it with the first clip, we can see the agent is not being run over. In fact, his feet are positioned away from the SUV. The SUV crashes into a white car parked down the road."
- (bolding is mine, for highlighting purposes).

Trump and his administration are lying.
And noone will get criminally prosecuted, at least until the DoJ is out of Trump's hands, although it is just possible that Trump will hand out a pardon to the ICE agent.
 
Well, seems the FBI, after initially agreeing to a joing investigation with Minnesota local teams, have reversed that decision and are blocking local forces from the investigation. So expect a cover-up of the truth.
Also Vance has been giving a press-conference and it genuinely seems like there were two different events, one that the media is covering and the one he was describing, as he talks about it being "classic terrorism". Beggars belief.
 
gmilam said:
As a child I was told that we have the second amendment in case we need to arm ourselves for protection from our own government.

Just sayin....
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According to worthless fuckwit, Chuckles Schumer, we need to "get to the bottom of this (?!)"--whatever the fuck that means: it was an unprovoked, point blank murder, there's no mystery to "this"--and figure out how to work alongside of ICE. WTF?! I have absolutely zero interest in "working alongside" this fucking murderer, Jonathan Ross. He needs to be apprehended and brought to justice, butttt... according to JD Vance, Ross has "total immunity". So that--being "brought to justice" by "proper" LEO, that is--ain't gonna happen, so what options are we left with?
 
billvon said:
If it means put the guy on trial to "get to the bottom of this" I am all for that!
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Here's the excerpt (timestamped at 1:20:42):

Pretty typical non-committal, "I'd rather be anyplace else but here" Chuck Schumer--notice the "killings occur" it at the end. Dude, wtf?! I'd like to think that that--put the guy on trial--is what Schumer meant, but Schumer being Schumer it's doubtful. Later in the clip, he talks about "working alongside" ICE--no calls for defunding ICE, abolishing ICE, anything of the sort. And he knows damn well that the FBI have shut Minnesota law enforcement out the investigation, so what the hell is he even talking about? Could a person be any more ineffective than Schumer? That guy just needs to go.
 
With every added element, this just grows more and more perplexing--and unsettling and depressing. Some fascist "news" outlet posted this video, subsequently reposted by JD Vance, and it shows the perspective of the murderer, Jonathan Ross, immediately prior murdering Renee Nicole Good. It's from his cell phone, which he was holding in one hand with the gun in the other.
www.theguardian.com

Renee Nicole Good said ‘I’m not mad at you’ before ICE agent shot her, video shows

Clip first posted by partisan outlet Alpha News shows perspective of ICE agent as Good was fatally shot
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The fascists maintain that this somehow bolsters their fabrications about Ross being in danger, or something like that. How? I don't know. From any sane person's perspective, this makes Ross's actions appear infinitely worse. He, for no apparent reason--other than, and I'm speculating here, he perhaps surmised that she was a lesbian and this infuriated him even more (note that all rightwing commentators have made a huge issue out of Good being a lesbian, so my speculation here is hardly unfounded)--chases her car, shoots her in the face three times, and calls her a "fucking bitch".

Every other week or so over the past year there is an incident which, in any sane world, would constitute a "Crossing the Rubicon" moment and this certainly qualifies--and, with this murder, I would argue that every new element, every new detail we learn, only amplifies this state exponentially.

This Ross fucker will not be "brought to justice", he will not be tried for anything, he will not even be reprimanded in any manner whatsoever. Rather, not unlike Kyle Rittenhouse, he will be hailed as a hero for murdering, as The Rapist described Good, a "professional agitator".

It's worth bearing in mind that while, at the moment, local (Minneapolis and Minnesota, in this instance) law enforcement appear to be on the side of the people, this is not often nor usually the case. Moreover, history reminds us that all law enforcement will eventually fall in line with the fascist regime, and in the US, where law enforcement tend to be poorly educated, antisocial, right-leaning miscreants (does anyone seriously dispute this?), they're apt to fall in line more readily and more swiftly.
 
parmalee said:
This Ross fucker will not be "brought to justice", he will not be tried for anything, he will not even be reprimanded in any manner whatsoever. Rather, not unlike Kyle Rittenhouse, he will be hailed as a hero for murdering, as The Rapist described Good, a "professional agitator".
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Well, he could be prosecuted at state level. From what I gather it depends to an extent on how much the FBI f**k up the investigation and what they pass to the local forces. But the reason the FBI have taken sole control of the investigation is presumably so that they alone can control the evidence. They can then withhold or redact evidence for any state prosecution etc.
The likeliest route would initially involve a federal Trump/MAGA judge making a ruling that grants Supremacy Clause immunity, preventing any state prosecution off the bat. This is presumably why Vance was saying that the officer had "absolute immunity", making sure the MAGA judges knew what was coming. Such a ruling would presumably be appealed, and then to SCOTUS we go, to make a definitive ruling on the matter.

Even should/when such immunity claims fail, the FBI have legal means to delay proceedings almost indefinitely. If/when Dems get back in to the WH, the FBI would presumably be more compliant/cooperative.

So, yeah, no prosecution even at state level is likely while Trump owns the FBI and DoJ.


Of course, there's the civil case for wrongful death that could be heard, which one would hope the family will pursue vigorously. It wouldn't be the same as a criminal conviction (cf. Trump not having a criminal conviction for rape but rather being found "liable" for sexual assault against Carroll). Now, how far the jury might consider the victim in this case to have contributed to someone shooting her (what was it, three times in the head?), who knows.
But then even a civil case would need access to evidence, and it would almost certainly get removed to federal court (and thus a MAGA judge?), and the immunity issue would remain.

But there is some avenue for something akin to justice to be sought and fairly assessed, I'd have thought. It will just take time. Almost certainly not during this current administration, though.
 
Sarkus said:
Of course, there's the civil case for wrongful death that could be heard, which one would hope the family will pursue vigorously. It wouldn't be the same as a criminal conviction (cf. Trump not having a criminal conviction for rape but rather being found "liable" for sexual assault against Carroll). Now, how far the jury might consider the victim in this case to have contributed to someone shooting her (what was it, three times in the head?), who knows.
But then even a civil case would need access to evidence, and it would almost certainly get removed to federal court (and thus a MAGA judge?), and the immunity issue would remain.

But there is some avenue for something akin to justice to be sought and fairly assessed, I'd have thought. It will just take time. Almost certainly not during this current administration, though.
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Unfortunately, I don't think that civil suits--excepting those for purely civil matters--ever provide the same sort of resolution or "closure" for family and friends that a criminal suit can. And, I mean, this is a murder! After viewing this most recent video, from Ross's cell phone--and, of course, people always have their cell phones filming whenever they genuinely fear for their lives--this matter is just even more disturbing. Could that woman be any less threatening?

Whether there will be an avenue for pursuing justice in the foreseeable future remains to be seen. I'm not counting on the mid-term elections being fair. I'm also not counting on several of the present Supreme Court justices dropping dead anytime soon. And, given Democratic leadership, I'm also not expecting for any calls or efforts to be made to defund or abolish ICE, a plainly rogue agency filled with Nazis, nazis, and every sort of lowlife violent thugs imaginable.

Moreover, I have no intentions for ever working alongside any of the 30, 40, 50 million plus who support these actions. They are truly awful and dangerous people, and, to all indications, largely ineducable and irredeemable. I think total secession, however unviable and unlikely, is the only workable and acceptable solution here. And, well... yeah, that ain't likely.
 
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