I didn't realize I am obligated to argue here

[Ivan Seeking]

i see a thread closed because I don't want to discuss my posts.

Why would I want to waste my time arguing? I post the information I find interesting or compelling. You can make of it what you want. Why is that a problem? Never mind that I might follow up much later. I didn't realize I am required to respond in a fixed period of time. It seems you are more interested in having pissing matches than simply exploring a topic.

 

[Pinball1970]

i see a thread closed because I don't want to discuss my posts.

Why would I want to waste my time arguing? I post the information I find interesting or compelling. You can make of it what you want. Why is that a problem? Never mind that I might follow up much later. I didn't realize I am required to respond in a fixed period of time. It seems you are more interested in having pissing matches than simply exploring a topic.

It is not just arguing, it is discussing. Looking at the details, assessing the quality of the information, deciding if if we come to the same conclusions as you.

 

[James R]

Ivan:

i see a thread closed because I don't want to discuss my posts.

You're posting to a discussion forum.

Why would I want to waste my time arguing?

You don't have to argue. You could just discuss your thoughts. Answer questions that people ask you. Maybe ask a few questions yourself. Compare ideas with other people. etc.

On the other hand, if you're going to make controversial claims, then chances are good that you're going to be asked for evidence or arguments that support those claims. sciforums is the kind of place where that sort of thing happens, you see.

But your readers shouldn't have to wait for you to be asked. You should post the evidence and/or arguments that support your position up front. That will save a lot of time and back-and-forth.

I post the information I find interesting or compelling. You can make of it what you want. Why is that a problem?

That, in itself, is not necessarily a problem. However, lately you mostly been cutting and pasting your chats with AI chatbots to this forum, often without any further commentary.

Again, this is a discussion forum. There are real people here. If they want to talk to an AI or read AI slop, they can do that directly, rather than reading a transcript of your interactions with AI. I think that most of our members are here because they want to talk to people.

If all you want to do is to post information that you find interesting and compelling, why choose a discussion forum for that? Why not start a blog, instead?

I didn't realize I am required to respond in a fixed period of time.

You aren't required to do that. I waited politely for you to respond to some direct questions I asked you. After you came back here and read my posts, you decided to completely ignore them.

You can't complain that I was too impatient and didn't give you enough time to respond to the questions I asked you. I was patient. You clearly weren't interested in having a discussion on a discussion forum.

It seems you are more interested in having pissing matches than simply exploring a topic.

Who is "you" in this context? You didn't address your post to anybody in particular.

Did you mean me?

I tried on four or five separate occasions over the past couple of weeks to explore a topic with you. You chose on each occasion to ignore me completely.

You don't have to engage with me, of course. That's up to you. It would be better if you would engage cordially and with a little politeness, of course, but if you can't manage that, I can accept your limitations.

Anyway, third repeat, for emphasis: sciforums is a discussion forum. If you're not here to have any discussions and if you want to proselytise your beliefs or preach a sermon, then you will very likely run afowl of our site positing guidelines. You'll be better off taking your sermons elsewhere.

Hope this helps!

 

[DaveC426913]

Why would I want to waste my time arguing?
...
I didn't realize I am required to respond in a fixed period of time.

Which is it?

'I will respond, just be patient.'
or
'I'm not going to waste my time.'


Can you see why we might not trust your motives?

It seems you are more interested in having pissing matches than simply exploring a topic.

It seems you came into this full of piss. This was the first post I've seen from you in a very long time:

Since people around here freely throw around personal insults towards anyone arguing for anything UFO/UAP...

You kind set the expectation here.

Unless I am mistaken (and I could be, feel free to correct me) no one as thrown any insults your way - let alone personal ones. Your fears were unfounded.

What we have done is push back on your arguments, which is what a science discussion forum is about. If you don't want to discuss, and you don't want critique, start a blog, and be sure to turn off the comments.

 

[geordief]

run afowl

like a headless chicken,perhaps?
;-)

 

[C C]

i see a thread closed because I don't want to discuss my posts.

Why would I want to waste my time arguing? I post the information I find interesting or compelling. You can make of it what you want. Why is that a problem? Never mind that I might follow up much later. I didn't realize I am required to respond in a fixed period of time. It seems you are more interested in having pissing matches than simply exploring a topic.

It's the appearance of inconsistency in some instances, where you arguably present yourself as a swashbuckler with a cutlass, but then contrarily consider extended engagement to be beneath you.

As an informal rule, one should be more attentive and prompt when posting something controversial or akin to a carnival attraction or bewildering with regard to the unclear point of it. Especially if one seems to be promoting, agreeing with, or hawking _X_. In contrast to neutrally offering a news item or other thing of potential interest for the group to comment on, contingently explore, or critically dissect.

Perhaps it is a fine line at times, but a key aspect is avoiding that semblance of being a scrapper taunting members of the audience to enter the ring but then disappearing when one of them enters.
_

 

[DaveC426913]

.

Perhaps it is a fine line at times, but a key aspect is ...

... as always, communication.

We've asked Ivan Seeking a dozen times across multiple threads if there's something he'd like to discuss. Generally, his M.O. has been to let us guess.

 

[Killjoy]

i see a thread closed because I don't want to discuss my posts.

Why would I want to waste my time arguing? I post the information I find interesting or compelling. You can make of it what you want. Why is that a problem? Never mind that I might follow up much later. I didn't realize I am required to respond in a fixed period of time. It seems you are more interested in having pissing matches than simply exploring a topic.

You're really only obligated to argue about how the forum is run.

I freely admit to slacking Godawfully in that department myself as of late, so - Hey! What about a little less of this and that, and more of the other thing, for the love of Jesus and all his murdered martyrs ! What is this - Soviet Russia ?!

 

[exchemist]

You're really only obligated to argue about how the forum is run.

I freely admit to slacking Godawfully in that department myself as of late, so - Hey! What about a little less of this and that, and more of the other thing, for the love of Jesus and all his murdered martyrs ! What is this - Soviet Russia ?!

Yeah. Or even obliged.