Human Cloning

" We should develop an electronic transmitter to turn on or off certain hormonal and endocrine activities adjunt to drug delivery. "

I would bet the psychiatrists would love that one. Mind control is not to far from that.

" In fact if we can repair the human body by advanced genetics, the requirement for cloning will disappear. Because the childless couple can be fertile again through the DNa and cell regeneration process which is very doable (Salmanders do it...) "

This still has the same negative affects that cloning does. If I can regrow things or change them then I can ever improve them. Redesign yourself into a superhuman. You can never fully control these thing because there will always be somewhere there is no rules. All it would take is one country or even one crazy doctor to edit many people.
 
Actually I take no postion on genetic refinement at all. In the long run, genetic refinement may save hummanity.

As far as gene therapy, I believe that it may well become possible for gene therapy to evolve into a field of science that becomes capable of changing the already born into enhanced humans. The beliefs that people cannot be genetically altered after birth is short sighted.

My original argument was against human experimentation while the the science is still so unpredictable.

The pursuit of gene therapy as treatment (or cure) for diseases is a noble one.
 
BRAIN BOOSTERS

Originally posted by kmguru
In the brain department, I have experimented with chemicals that speeds up brain activity to solve complex problems.
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Really? Well give us a list! I should like to email the names of these brain enhancing chemicals to a few members at Science forum!:D

While you are making a list of these chemicals, I shall prepare a list of the people who are in the greatest need. :D

Seriously, I have used Ginko Biloba. For a time, I did notice a ..... much wider perspective and an increase in ability. What would you recommend?
 
There will be a huge problem with genetic engineering, lets call it GE for saving space. If GE is all its cracked up to be than that would mean people could live 50% or longer than before, almost overnight. While there wouldn't be an actual aging vaccine, GE would provide us with something similar.

Medicare would be overwhealmed by this massive demand to live a lot longer with a fairly uncomplex way of getting the genetically engineered shot. Depending on expense there could be mass demonstrations even riots against governments to provide their peoples with the vaccine.

There could be problems if an "age vaccine" is ever invented. I would hope that the pros would outweigh the cons, but its hard to tell.
 
Brain Boosters:

I am not sure I can recommend anything on a public forum (not sure the liability) but can state the following.

People have used the following from any health food store:

Huperzine A
Vinpocetine
Ginko Biloba
Gotu Kola
phosphatidylserine
DHA
Choline

You must check with your doctor for side effects and drug interactions. For example, Choline can drop your blood pressure. I usually take 1200 mg of Choline before a presentation to reduce my "um", "you know", "uh" etc. In China, those words sound like "chega, chega, chega"...and they work for me.

If you take a chemical continuously, it will not work, because the body reaches a new equilibrium. You have to take it only when necessary to do the job same way you need caffine to wake up. That is why we need a gene therapy so that the body will produce the required neurotransmitters all the time. Here is why: When you are in a agarian society, you do not need such high level brain activity, but when you are doing software development, we need that level. So we have no choice but to do something to improve our brain activity when the society becomes highly knowledge based. The vitamins and drugs are a temporary measure but ultimately we have to reconfigure our DNA.

Other high powered prescription drugs include a family of drugs called "nootropics". You can check them out in Google. They work too. The brain follows the same activity as the body. If you do not excercise, your muscles will get atrophy and your brain will get dull. So if you are in a constantly challenging environment (this forum for example ;) ) you keep your brain ship-shape. But if you are not and then you have to go in to an intense activity, you need some chemical help to quickly get moving.
 
Originally posted by thecurly1
If GE is all its cracked up to be than that would mean people could live 50% or longer than before, almost overnight. While there wouldn't be an actual aging vaccine, GE would provide us with something similar.
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Weare already working on a youth serum by manipulating the telomerase enzyme. It is being researched with the Cancer research. The cancer cells stay immortal because they do not loose it. Any way we are there ...very close.

Medicare would be overwhealmed by this massive demand to live a lot longer with a fairly uncomplex way of getting the genetically engineered shot. Depending on expense there could be mass demonstrations even riots against governments to provide their peoples with the vaccine.
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On the contrary, we spend $650 to $800 Billion a year on health related expenses. A gene therapy that automatically repairs your organs will reduce that cost drastically. Granted the rich golf playing doctors, and obscene profit making drug companies will see their future disappear (except the gene guys)...but society will be better off.

There could be problems if an "age vaccine" is ever invented. I would hope that the pros would outweigh the cons, but its hard to tell.
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What are you smoking...? no body wants an age vaccine to stay on a heart-lung machine for 50 years! That vaccine will keep to healthy period. No doctors, work to contribute to the society.
 
WRONG TOO EXPENSIVE!

Sound nice, but it won't work.

One company will have the patent for the age vaccine, then they can keep the prices EXTREAMLY expensive. Just imagine if it costs as much as a cancer or AIDS drug which could be likely. Even if it cost as much as Viagra, they'll keep their patent for years if not, DECADES.

With an expensive drug that nearly everyone wants, Medicare would be simply overwhealmed. We'd be in debt trying to recover the costs in later years.

Another reason why this is stepping on a slippery slope.
 
If the drug is very expensive and solves your problem, there will be a black market. Someone here or overseas will manufacturer it and supply like illegal drugs of today. I heard you can buy Viagra in Asia cheap.
 
It must be kept at a reasonable price so that anyone can get it done. A black market is a definite if it gets to selective. The only problem is how long one must take the drug for it to have an affect. It might be a very short duration so there is no requirement to keep taking the drug and become a regular customer. That will affect prices. Whatever happens I plan to be one that takes the drug, no matter how I have to get it.

" With an expensive drug that nearly everyone wants, Medicare would be simply overwhealmed. We'd be in debt trying to recover the costs in later years. "

Why? Medicare would not care at all. It simply will not cover that drug.
 
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