How is hydrogen atom formed?

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Billy T said:
Can you give any example that is not due to a third body, often an electron passing near the radiator so that the orbitals are disturbed and it can help conserver momentum?
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You can have electric quadrupole excitation, or magnetic dipole excitation, which as I recall follow different selection rules, but are much weaker in intensity than electric dipole-induced transitions.
 
exchemist said:
You can have electric quadrupole excitation, or magnetic dipole excitation, which as I recall follow different selection rules, but are much weaker in intensity than electric dipole-induced transitions.
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Yes, I think such transitions between levels like s & d do exist, but don't think they absorb photons, without help of some "third body."
 
Billy T said:
Yes, I think such transitions between levels like s & d do exist, but don't think they absorb photons, without help of some "third body."
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To be honest, I am not convinced that is so - at least it not how I was taught it. Do you have evidence?
 
exchemist said:
To be honest, I am not convinced that is so - at least it not how I was taught it. Do you have evidence?
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Only the understanding, I think correct, that the photon can not supply the angular moment associated with an s to d transition.
 
Billy T said:
Only the understanding, I think correct, that the photon can not supply the angular moment associated with an s to d transition.
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I am not sure how magnetic dipole and electric quadrupole transitions occur. Maybe they involve more than one photon or something and are "3rd body" interactions in that sense. Suggest we both hunt around for this a bit. I tried briefly yesterday but fund nothing about any 3rd bodies being involved. The Wiki article on selection rules is very brief and not very adequate, so it will mean looking deeper.
 
Oh, look who's back.

Still as ignorant and as obnoxious as ever, I see.
 
ban me again? so what?

if you can debunk me with science, why banned me 3 times?

lmao
 
You need to debunk the currently accepted model first, before anyone even has to give your proposal a passing thought.

Why can't YOU debunk the current scientific theory?
 
ok, how about photon?

how hot gasses on the sun emit photons? electrons change orbitals? how many orbitals in a hot gas atom? why is sunlight spectrum continue?
 
if an electron captures a photon then what velocity does the photon have? It is either orbiting the electron or it slows down. Another biggy is if the photon has no charge then how could an electron capture it in the first place? Isn't it then as likely to be captured by a proton or neutron?
 
if energy is conserve, matter is conserve, charge is conserve.

how could electron emits photons? how many rounds of photon can an electron carry?

what's the difference between red photon and blue photon?
 
Maybe you should eat a few science books instead of using them for toilet paper. It seems like that's the only way you'll get the information inside you.
 
jcc said:
ban me again? so what?
if you can debunk me with science, why banned me 3 times?
lmao
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You've been debunked with science continually, and have been banned three times because you remain foolishly ignorant and obstinately rejecting it all.
But keep on keeping on and you may get your wish to be banned again...could even be permanent this time.
 
jcc said:
fools.
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So, tell me, since you refuse to accept any and all explanations for the questions you ask, and since you obviously are anti science and have an agenda, why do you come to a science forum?
Why not preach your nonsense to the "true believers" in whatever church you infest.
 
big mouths. lmao!

that's your science?

still photon believer?

i accept logic and fact, not foolish bs science theories. such as photon, gravitron, god particle etc.
 
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