How does it feel to be poor?

[(Q)]

You are a communist.

You can't afford a dictionary.

Whichever bamboo made sqatwater shack you live on, it is plain to see that you have no basis in civilized world. You said youself you do not need to be looked after. Which means you do not live in society.

Your deductions are as empty as your wallet.

Either way, you probably don't even know how to add and subtract.
All you talk about is how rich you are. Pathetic elitist.

I thought we were talking about how poor you are, based on the fact you want other people to support you.

You are. As I stated earlier, and for reasons I stated earlier. I have more than you blah bla blah is all you know how to respond. You really have no life.

Ah yes, you've reached your blah bla blah stage right on time.

Your nazi reasoning that I am rich, and therfore, who cares is what is parasitical. Eat that.

Will you be dining on KD with slices of hotdogs smothered in ketchup again tonight? Yum.

 

[Raithere]

How does it feel to be working all the bleeding time really?

Extraordinarily good, actually. Because I have planned and worked hard I find things getting easier year by year. Now that I have secured the education, the skills, the ability, and the resources to do more much of my effort goes towards helping others. I contribute directly to a number of very good charities helping to feed, shelter, educate, and protect peoples (particularly children's) rights. I am on the board and help finance several charitable trusts that sponsor museums and education, conserves wildlife and educates people in ecology and conservation. This and the other things I'm able to do I find quite enjoyable. In fact the single most enjoyable activity one can undertake is to help someone else. I also follow my grandfather's maxim, "Put back more than you take."

Keep your ass laboring so you can make ends meet to put food on your family's table. Is this the lives we want for our society. Not I. Not a single child or adult need ever be without. No single child or adult should be busting their butts just to make ends meet. We have the technology and capacity to prevent this kind of crap.

No one should go without. But if no one contributes there will be nothing for anyone. Someone has to contribute to the larder before there is something there to remove.

My question to you, who brags about leeching off the system, is why should I support you?

As for entitlement. All humans have equal entitlement.

Ah, the liberal fallacy. Sorry, No. No one is entitled.

All that anyone ever has in life is accomplished through effort. Whether it be freedom or food. The only question is whether the labor was your own or someone else's.

I honor those who have worked and sacrificed to provide for me what I have by doing well with it and doing the same for others.

~Raithere

 

[baumgarten]

My question to you, who brags about leeching off the system, is why should I support you?

I must apologize for my servant's rude behavior. Cool skill is very proud that he has such a generous master, but that is no excuse for bragging. I will try to keep him in line better from now on.

 

[Raithere]

I have given tons of examples on what a proper system is. Many examples are in every single post.

And again I say; don't tell me what, tell me how.


That or admit you haven't a clue how. Which is fine. It's okay to have a goal even if you don't know how to accomplish it.
But then don't go calling people idiots for trying to figure it out or do something about it. That just makes you a hypocrite.

I feed the poor, shelter the homeless, educate the ignorant, protect the childen, and conserve the environment.

What are you doing?

~Raithere

 

[lixluke]

You can't afford a dictionary.

Your deductions are as empty as your wallet.

I thought we were talking about how poor you are, based on the fact you want other people to support you.

Ah yes, you've reached your blah bla blah stage right on time.

Will you be dining on KD with slices of hotdogs smothered in ketchup again tonight? Yum.

Same untillectual ad hom dunce blithering.
Oh wait. The facts still remain.
Better luck next time.
Stick to the topic or get lost. you are a troll.

 

[baumgarten]

Same untillectual ad hom dunce blithering.
Oh wait. The facts still remain.
Better luck next time.
Stick to the topic or get lost. you are a troll.

Take your master's advice. You should keep your words to yourself; like all your other things, you haven't got very many of them.

 

[Oniw17]

That is not a solution.
Are you even aware of the poverty existing all over the planet?
I have provided proper paradigms and methods towards solving the proble.

Yes, I'm fully aware of poverty all over the planet. And obviously, since you're using a computer, you don't fall into the category of such extreme poverty. So, you're asking what I would do with the world-wide poverty? Start charity funds for bussiness grants for the places where poverty is worst, to allow those people to earn their own riches.In turn, they give others jobs, and a chain reaction occurs. It's very important to have a good selection process, similar to what they do with government grants in the United States.All that I've heard you say is rich support the poor, what kind of solution is that? We end up in a worse situation in a couple of decades, because no one has money.

All you can think about is getting a job and being a slave. You claim to be working as if it such a great thing. You are nothing more than a pathetic servant for the rich.

Wow talk about bad comprehensive reading.. I specifically said that I DON'T have a job, and yet I'm financially independent. Look closer next time.

You act like it is such a great thing that you have to put in time and labor just so you can have money with their faces on it, and no control whatsoever of anything.

But you're the one who wants money for nothing.

You do not control your life.

Really? Nobody ever stops me from doing what I want,so what control do they have?

As long as you are dependent on your master, it is your master that is in control.

Except, my master is me. I sell random things that I buy really cheap. The only factor that controls my money is whether or not I have the initiative to go out and find someone who wants to buy a tv, or a car amp, or a watch.

 

[Oniw17]

You do not have to contribute to anything.
That is not freedom.
There is no law anywhere that says you have to contribute unless you are in a communist oppressive regime.
What the hell is your prob?

Feedom means that no individual is obligated to anything. You are certainly not contrinuting anything with your nazi mentality.

Freedom doesn't exempt you from responsibility over yourself. If you kill someone(and are caught), you take on responsibility for that no matter how much freedom you have. You are also responsible for paying your own bills, and buying your own food. If you get help with that because you need it, that's fine, but to not want more, or to want somebody else to give you more, you are stupid.

 

[wesmorris]

It's interesting that this troll has the power to illicit commentary from so many bright people and be completely immune to it. Seems like a pretty worthless servant though baum. I'd put that one out to pasture.

 

[lixluke]

It's interesting that this troll has the power to illicit commentary from so many bright people and be completely immune to it. Seems like a pretty worthless servant though baum. I'd put that one out to pasture.

The troll is you. I have throughout remained on topic without veer.
You have yet to provide any legitimate response.
All you ever do is troll and complain.

According to you, doing like cool skill, and staying on topic is trolling. Doing like wemoron, and using obsessive over personal attacks and mindless complaints is productive discussion.

 

[baumgarten]

It's interesting that this troll has the power to illicit commentary from so many bright people and be completely immune to it. Seems like a pretty worthless servant though baum. I'd put that one out to pasture.

It is important to know what a servant is good for and what he is not good for.

Cool's skills are rather limited in range, and he does not have the necessary faculties of consciousness to listen to orders proper. Nonetheless, in his few functions, he is the most dependable servant a master could ask for. He has never yet let me down. I think he exemplifies the redeeming qualities of poverty and inferiority; I could never expect the same reliable behavior from a person of the very least intellectual development, in the tasks that cool skill is able to perform with the proper stimulus-focused training. I sincerely could not imagine a more dependable, responsive lapdog.

 

[lixluke]

allow those people to earn their own riches

This has already been addressed many times over. Riches cannot be earned. Money cannot be earned. You either get it through various possible means or you do not.

EARN: To bring about or cause deservedly.
DESERVE: To be worthy of

In order to earn or deserve something, there must be a frame of reference.

Please explain why you have this attitude that money can be earned.
Where does it come from?
What makes you think a bunch of pieces of paper with white president faces on them is ever deserved?
If it is what they can purchase, what makes you think a person who does some sort of effort “deserves” more than one who either sits there and does nothing for tons of money or one who takes it by any means necessary?
Do you believe that whoever has more money simply “deserves” it based on the fact that they have it despite how they got it?
What makes you think “deserving” money is not a completely irrational concept of absolute inanity?


You speak about allowing them to earn their own over providing for them.
I have a billion dollars. If I am going to help people, I am sure as hell going to use it to ensure they do not “have” to lift a finger for the rest of their life. They may or may not do some form of productive endeavor depending on their personal choice. But at least they have the means not to “have” to lift a finger for the system. They now have all the means of support, and freedom from having to do time and effort for the system.

I personally would not want anybody lifting a finger for your dunce exploitive corrupt system, and provide them with everything they need and more so that they never have to lift a finger for the system again.
Does that not make good sense?

what kind of solution is that?

It is obvious you do not understand what I am saying. There is no point continuing with this assertion when you choose to misinterpret my depiction.

I DON'T have a job, and yet I'm financially independent. Look closer next time. But you're the one who wants money for nothing.

More ad hom crap. It doesn’t even matter. It is not important about whether you or I have or have not money. The issue is completely independent of the financial status of anybody involved. The questions I have posed still remain. Either stick to the topic or get lost.

As for me wanting money for nothing, who doesn’t. You would have to be the most ignorant total completely asinine master of infinite loserocity to not want money for nothing. Anybody with any sense wants money for nothing. There is no single more efficient method of acquiring money unless somebody can defy logic and think of one.

Either way, it is not the point. It is however interesting to see a rare loser that seems to have a problem with wanting money for nothing.

Really?

Yes really.
If you had hundreds of billions of dollars, would you be doing something as idiotic as hustling stolen TVs and fake watches in the sewer?

Otherwise, if you stopped doing so, would you be able to find all the means you need to take care of yourself?
If not, I doubt very much you are free or have any control. You are controlled by the economic forces that compel you to partake in idiotic catacombic aqueduncic activities.

 

[lixluke]

Freedom doesn't exempt you from responsibility over yourself. If you kill someone(and are caught), you take on responsibility for that no matter how much freedom you have. You are also responsible for paying your own bills, and buying your own food. If you get help with that because you need it, that's fine, but to not want more, or to want somebody else to give you more, you are stupid.

It is you who is stupid.
What is your problem with wanting somebody to give you more than what you have?
Not wanting somebody to give you something is stupid.
What is more stupid is your misinterpretation of freedom.

As you stated, you are responsible for yourself, and therefore, no police protection. Therefore, anybody can kill you, capture you, and force you into shackled labor. After all, it is your responsibility to take care of yourself.

But that just isn't the case is it? Because that is not what freedom is about.
As soon as you understand what freedom means, perhaps you will be able to come up with a response that follows sense. Until then, you have absolutely no clue what freedeom is, what it is about, and what it means. The less you know about it, the less likely you will be able to attain it.

 

[lixluke]

It is important to know what a servant is good for and what he is not good for.

You are a typical obsessed troll.
I'd love to see what this moron has to say next. How truly pathetic is Kindergarten Bum indeed. I didn't know they still let bums in kindergarten. HAHAHAHA!!!! Bum-kindergarten. HAHAHAHA!!!!

 

[baumgarten]

You are a typical obsessed troll.

I'm far from typical. So are you. That's why we chose each other. You showed me the light, and I took your hand, gave you meaning. This is our life now. We laugh together and sob together. When I fall, you catch me. When you fall, I make you get up. We are Synchronicity.

I know it's hard being cool skill. You are so poor in mind and body that it's a difficulty just to survive. Just look at how your attempts to express yourself end in hysterics.

I didn't know they still let bums in kindergarten. HAHAHAHA!!!! Bum-kindergarten. HAHAHAHA!!!!

I cannot say exactly what this means, but I know that somehow you are trying to express your love for your master. I think in ways that you cannot so that you may live more richly. I share my wealth with you so that you may eat and drink every day. You are absolutely right to be proud of leeching off of my wealth. I am proud to let you.

It's hard being baumgarten, too. Infinite wealth requires infinite wisdom. It is easy to start second-guessing yourself when you're in my shoes. But you are my pole star, cool skill. Amidst all the uncertainty of godliness, you never change. You are as predictable as the seasons. You give me a ground to stand on, a hand to guide me through the blinding light.

So thank you, cool skill. Thank you so much. But please, please try to keep your composure. If you keep on at this rate, you may soil yourself. And you have no servant to change your pants.

 

[Jaster Mereel]

I'm far from typical. So are you. That's why we chose each other. You showed me the light, and I took your hand, gave you meaning. This is our life now. We laugh together and sob together. When I fall, you catch me. When you fall, I make you get up. We are Synchronicity.

I know it's hard being cool skill. You are so poor in mind and body that it's a difficulty just to survive. Just look at how your attempts to express yourself end in hysterics.

I cannot say exactly what this means, but I know that somehow you are trying to express your love for your master. I think in ways that you cannot so that you may live more richly. I share my wealth with you so that you may eat and drink every day. You are absolutely right to be proud of leeching off of my wealth. I am proud to let you.

It's hard being baumgarten, too. Infinite wealth requires infinite wisdom. It is easy to start second-guessing yourself when you're in my shoes. But you are my pole star, cool skill. Amidst all the uncertainty of godliness, you never change. You are as predictable as the seasons. You give me a ground to stand on, a hand to guide me through the blinding light.

So thank you, cool skill. Thank you so much. But please, please try to keep your composure. If you keep on at this rate, you may soil yourself. And you have no servant to change your pants.

Poetic.

 

[lixluke]

Extraordinarily good, actually. Because I have planned and worked hard I find things getting easier year by year. Now that I have secured the education, the skills, the ability, and the resources to do more much of my effort goes towards helping others. I contribute directly to a number of very good charities helping to feed, shelter, educate, and protect peoples (particularly children's) rights. I am on the board and help finance several charitable trusts that sponsor museums and education, conserves wildlife and educates people in ecology and conservation. This and the other things I'm able to do I find quite enjoyable.

It makes no sense. What is so great about being a happy slave?

Say for instance, you are in captivity. You do all this work. This is what you have, so you might be happy and enjoy yourself to the best of your abilities. You get your job done. You participate in various activities. You might even be able to save some money. Nonetheless, you remain in captivity shackled to a system, and working within such a system with probably no chance of any independence from it.

Is this really that great?
Do you really feel good about being a productive member of a game that you have been forced to play? A game who’s creators designed and maintain control of specifically for them to win?

No one should go without. But if no one contributes there will be nothing for anyone. Someone has to contribute to the larder before there is something there to remove.

Nobody has denied this.
The point was that each person should have the choice whether or not they want to partake H required.
Did you not read the previous posts?

My question to you, who brags about leeching off the system, is why should I support you?

Where did I ever say you should support me? Show me. Otherwise, stop being an idiot, and misinterpreting everything I am talking about.

No one is entitled

Wrong.
I guess you never heard of constitutional rights?

 

[lixluke]

I'm far from typical.

No you are not. There have been even worse than you who chew on my name all over sciforums, posting threads about me, and following me in every thread.
Namely 2 people that have done this before, and a few others to a slighter degree. You are not as bad, but obsessed nonetheless. And most definitely typical.

 

[baumgarten]

No you are not. There have been even worse than you who chew on my name all over sciforums, posting threads about me, and following me in every thread.
Namely 2 people that have done this before, and a few others to a slighter degree. You are not as bad, but obsessed nonetheless. And most definitely typical.

I'm glad you have gained your composure. That would have been a mess.

 

[lixluke]

I'm glad you have gained your composure.

Too bad about yourself.