Hinduism

Deadwood:

Looks like the topics in Eastern Philosophy is left to you and me to post, while a large number of viewers are watching and reading mode. So, ask your friends and post anything interesting - specially philosophical and sociological issues "down under". I have never been to Australia, is it more like UK or a blend of UK, US and South Afrika?

How is economy down there? Do you have any magazine that is home grown in economy, news & commentary etc that are on the net? Who is your biggest telecom company?
 
Hey kmguru,

Australia is like a half-way between the US and UK. We get our roots from the UK, but follow the US so to speak. Our economy is interesting. Our economy has grown the most or second in the world lately compared to the other countries of the developed world. But our dollar in the last three years has gone from like AUD$1 = US$0.80 but is not AUD$1 = US$0.50- US$0.50. So if you're thinking of coming over anytime soon, you will find a great conversion rate for you US dollars. that is an understatement. I don't know how the US does it.

no I don't know of any online economy mags online, but our biggest Telco is Telstra. They sponsor Ian Thorpe, the swimmer. He is kinda lucky that he got to swim, because when the AIS(Australian Institute of Sport) actually came looking for a swimmer, my classmate(one of the ones involved in the clothes fiasco :D ) beat him. So Thorpe came second. But since my friend has a bad knee they chose thorpe instead. Now he doesn't like thorpe with a vengeance. Because I mentioned in english class once his name once and said how great a swimmer he was, and he got real upset. He said that he used to always whip him with the towel and that thorpe would always get his mum. Well, that was in the Under 14's swimming.
 
You should tell your friend to have his knee repaired and go back to swimming. He can easily get a scholarship to come to US. If he does not make it to Olympics, still he can go coaching. He should learn meditative techniques (relaxation control) to improve his time. I had a student who was also a swimmer in freshman college. He did improve his capability after one course.
 
He's had numerous operations before, but to no avail. But still, it just goes to show how different the swimming world could have been.
 
Sorry to hear that. May I make a suggestion:

People who are excellent in a skill, it is not the skill but the drive and sheer will power that gets them there. What he can do is focus on something different and strive to equally excel in that.

Personally, when I was in college, I was challeged to enter an art contest. Even though I was a novice in the art department, I worked on it and was placed in 3rd. I proved to myself and to my friends that it can be done.

I have changed my career 4 times, each one in completely different fields. And on each one I was one of the best - atleast in USA . So it can be done.
 
Actually, he's not very smart in school. But he does love drawing. He made a cartoon a couple of years ago based on me(hehe, I was the main character) and it was on Television! Though I missed it doh! But it was one of them short 2-3 minute cartoons. My little brother was jealous. He said "are you getting any money for this", but I told him that hey I've been on a cartoon, whats money worth when its something like this. But it was on one of them stations that not many people watch. We were making a movie together but he lost the script and the background and everything. Actually for Englis, we had to do a Movie. I got the second highest grade in the class for Silence of the Lambs. But he failed because the teacher said that she had watched the movie before and he got the cast members names wrong. But the thing is, how could she watch a movie that wasn't even out yet? Well, he should've put in more believable cast names.
 
Your friend and you could set up a free website like geocities and a company with 50/50 proft. Then let him draw the cartoons, you can scan them and color them and animate them - then put it on the web. Try to attract attention and soon, before you know it, you may get the business going well....

Business is risk, but it is worth it when you succeed....
 
Funny you should mention that. We were actually planning that. but it never really got out of the planning stage. We were going to stream it in real player or something but we didn't know how to do it.

You see everytime we have an idea we would work on it during class and when we were getting somewhere it would get either lost or stolen(it was written all on paper). People were on to us, well thats what I think. People wanting to steal our ideas and use it for their own. Well thats business I guess. But really I just like to see my ideas used even if I don't get anything out of it other than the satisfaction that my idea was good and people liked it.

We also don't have any HTML experience. Once we were thinking of putting up song lyrics on the web. But these are interactive song lyrics. but before you see the song lyrics you are asked for stuff like your favourite animal, person you most dislike, favourite food etc. Then after you input that the song comes up with what you wrote in different places. I knew how to do it in "Delphi" but not HTML. But anyway, we were talking and a guy said that he would do it(what you would call a real computer geek). But the thing is he someone who doesn't even like me or who I could trust. Our whole grade didn't like that guy. Not because he likes computers but because he was really up himself because he knew a lot about computers. So I knew he would pass it up as his own. So I didn't give him anything plus I didn't trust him. Also, he made a website that was "myname.cjb.net" that forwarded to a porno site. Then a few weeks later a beastyality site and told everyone about my site. But anyway they all knew it wasn't my doing.

So again, I guess thats business. I have had some ideas but they either get lost or stolen. :( Also, I got an invite to partake in the worlds biggest amaeture poetry prize at Disney World, but I can't afford to go hehe so I never told my parents. Well, I guess someday I'll get a break, nows probably not the time.
 
You can do the song lyrics on Javascript. Go get a book on it, it is easy to learn. You may be able to take a class on it at school. There are JS classes on the internet free - too. Good Luck
 
Hi guys! Whats your thoughts on this.

As the embodied soul continuosly passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into andother body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a cange.

Bhagavad Gita; 2:13
 
I am not sure, that is a good logic though. Without a good definition of the soul, it is hard to follow one. When you die, you die at a specific time when the brain stops functioning. There is no specific demarkation when you pass one phase of your life to next except an arbitrary age set by our society. Then there is the problem of what happens to the soul that you are replacing if you pass to another body. Or exactly what is the time frame when a fetus becomes self aware - or does it?

It is much more complicated and more like a belief system than something happens in reality. I am always open to better understanding of the nature of our being.
 
One thing that I want to know in Hinduism is if when the world was created were there the same amount of souls as their is today.

I guess you couldn't really say when the soul would pass but perhaps if you count the body(flesh) and the soul as two different entities that may help.

But then you might say that the body could exist without a soul and vice versa or that as soon as a body begins to become formed there is a soul waiting to enter it? I'm not sure what the beliefs are.
 
There are an unlimited amount of souls. A soul is spiritual by nature. It is part and parcel of the spiritual Whole, God. The spirit-soul is the lifeforce of matter. In other words matter is useless without the intervention of the spirit-soul. For example, a car cannot act without the aid of a person (spirit-soul), it remains just a lump. A body without a soul is useless, it is a dead body. The symptom of the spirit-soul is consciousness.
God is pure spirit, the Supreme (male) it is He who injects life into the material energy, (female). From this point on, the universe(s) becomes abundant with life. We are no-different from the Supreme qualatively. Where we differ, is that God is infinate and we are finate. An example is if we take just a drop water from the atlantic ocean, it would be identical to the rest of the ocean, qualatively, but would not be as great as the ocean quantatively.
So our position is that, as spirit-souls we are separated parts and parcels of the the Supreme Soul (Brahman).

Why are we separated?

Because we decided we wanted to enjoy, like God. In other words we envy God, so we became rebelious, like Lucifer, Ravanna or Kamsa. So God created a universe(s) so we can act out our fantasies. In order for us to live in the material atmosphere, we require bodies, so the bodies are given to us by (mother) nature. The seed is provided by God.

As soon as there is sexual intercourse a designated soul is waiting to enter into the womb of the mother. I say designated, because that person (spirit-soul) has the right qualifications to be born unto those parents, be they ants, animals, humans or demigods etc. His parents are chosen, either according to his actions (if human) in his previous life (karma), or if he was a plant, animal, insect etc...he then moves up the evolutionary scale until he obtains a human body. It is stated in vedic literature that there are 8,400,000 species of life.

The spirit-soul never changes, because he is part and parcel of the Supreme Soul he is eternal, never comes into being or never destroyed. Matter on the other hand, has to be created and ultimately has to be anihilated, this body is made up of all the variegated material elements eg; air, fire , water etc...
After the dissolution of this material body, the soul has to accept another body according to his actions.
 
Jnana Yoga??????

kmguru quote: Definitions
Some of the definitions we will use (my defs)

Sanatana Dharma

Sanatana: Eternal
Dharma: Way of Life

Any way of life that when practiced by majority of people can provide peace, happiness and prosperity for mankind for eternity is THE WAY OF LIFE.

I practice Jnana Yoga

Jnana: Knowledge
Yoga: Into, Union, Merge, Path

a framework within which the self optimally utilizes its resources and processes to anticipate future opportunities, changes and threats, to continuously renew itself for sustenance, survival and growth in mind , body and spirit.

Hope that helps
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Jnana Yoga ??????? Personally I have felt the teachings of Bodi Dharma to be most relevant to my understanding of the world around me.

.....thanks Kmguru.....:)
 
Hi Riddler:

Whatever works for you....Different strokes for different folks....

I like to be a Knowledge Management Guru. he... he...:D
 
I met a guy at GATECH who was an INDIAN HINDU and a firm believer of his relegion.i have actually added a touch of scientific "matrix"style approach to his ideas.please say something about them KMGURU.

in hinduism lord "BRAHMA" has said to be created world in 1 day.consider this world as a computer program and brahma as a computer programmer.

lord "VISHNU" as he told me is said to be maintaining this world.
consider this:he creates those small time programs and inserts it into the matrix and inside a human to call him avtar or so they say in hinduism.well jesus christ,rama,krishna,proph mohd etc are a few examples.(EXACTLY WHAT "NEO" was in the matrix movie).

lord shiva as he told me is the boss. (CMD OF THE TRIO -:))
(NOTE:In all of my speculations i have assumed that we live inside a computer system,a programmed one,thereby assuming the existence of god.also i want to just add my own thoughts which doesnt mean that i want to make my friend correct in any respect.just a thought!)-:)-:)
 
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Hi Zion,

Interesting idea, works for me... Just like sedimentary rocks in grand canyon, it is difficult to separate todays Hinduism from the original Veda days. One of the story in Indian folklore is that we came from Mizar binary star systems and settled on Earth. Well, then - even if we are a computer program, it must be running a long time - with interconnected sub programs elsewhere.

I posted elsewhere that the Gods interacting with humans could be special software agents that directly interfaces with the programmers.

Interesting speculation but any truth to it? who knows?....
 
Well I had been looking at some of the Symbols from the Hindus (and symbols that date back tot he Indis and even Celt/Viking)

One of them you all know, possibly some of you know for the wrong reason. That is the Swastika.
I have actually theotised an understanding to the Ancients versions true meaning, And it does coincide with Avatar (The descent of a deity to earthly form).

Basically the Symbol means a system of Quantum Acceleration (to me and what diagram I had to draw to get it.) Also there were other symbols, some of which you will find under Symbols in the Pseudoscience area of Sciforums.

I left out the swastika and pentagon, because I thought some people would find them deeply offensive. Of course on further inspection they should actually be less offensive than the Christian cross (Even though the NAZI's did mock Hinduism with their usage of the Swastika.)

I have previously worried about expressing too much information on my thoughts of the past because I've always felt something which I couldn't admit to anyone. And it involves that Avatar point of mythology and myself.
 
The nazi symbol is right handed where as Indian Swastika is left handed. In India it is used extensively to ward off evil spirits and for good luck. The Nazis flipped it meaning bad luck and guess what happened...
 
Re: Jnana Yoga??????

*Originally posted by Riddler
onally I have felt the teachings of Bodi Dharma to be most relevant to my understanding of the world around me.*

That explains why you call yourself institutionalized.

*Originally posted by kmguru
I posted elsewhere that the Gods interacting with humans could be special software agents that directly interfaces with the programmers. *

Only a knowledge management guru who designs advanced decision systems could miss the point so thoroughly.

God would BE the programmer.

Gurus would be like viruses.

*The nazi symbol is right handed where as Indian Swastika is left handed. In India it is used extensively to ward off evil spirits and for good luck. The Nazis flipped it meaning bad luck and guess what happened...*

It's bad luck either way.
India went from a major civilization to a slum around an open sewer while using the swastika.
I guess it wasn't as effective at warding off evil spirits as first supposed.
One can almost picture those spirits laughing at the thought.
 
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