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[exchemist]

I think you've just made the same mistake many do... they're not saying it should be called the Trump melon, but rather that Trump is a melon. Easy mistake to make, though.

My local store insist that the Kiwi is the best fruit. But I think that's just a precursor to recolonising those particular islands.

Kiwifruit is a cultural appropriation of the Chinese gooseberry.

 

[exchemist]

I have a firm policy of not eating food that resembles a hairy testicle. More seriously, when you struggle with them, removing the scrotal outer layer, somehow most of the kitchen seems to end up covered with the little broken off hairs. Also, the kiwis they sell here seem to take about six weeks to ripen, which IMO redefines "slow food."

My son eats them with the skin on.

I don’t bother with them at all, as a rule. Fairly tasteless things, I find. Like those utterly pointless, yet unaccountably ubiquitous, blueberries. (Though I once came across wild blueberries in the French Alps, and they were a different matter, with real flavour.)

 

[TheVat]

My son eats them with the skin on.

Sounds like the Epicurean equivalent of wearing teeshirts outside in a South Dakota winter. College boys here will do that occasionally. Sort of a low-key machismo.

I don’t bother with them at all, as a rule. Fairly tasteless things, I find. Like those utterly pointless, yet unaccountably ubiquitous, blueberries. (Though I once came across wild blueberries in the French Alps, and they were a different matter, with real flavour.)

Yes, real blueberries are delicious. As for your tasteless kiwi, it probably didn't ripen. They really do take eons to reach the point of a sweet and sort of citrusy flavor.

 

[Sarkus]

Kiwifruit is a cultural appropriation of the Chinese gooseberry.

Meh. I wouldn't go that far. It's rebranding for a different market. We call the garbanzo bean the chickpea, the US call the aubergine "eggplant", and we call hundreds of dishes "curry". And don't get me started on the whole Marathon / Snickers debacle.

 

[TheVat]

Meh. I wouldn't go that far. It's rebranding for a different market. We call the garbanzo bean the chickpea, the US call the aubergine "eggplant", and we call hundreds of dishes "curry". And don't get me started on the whole Marathon / Snickers debacle.

Joke:

What's the difference between a chickpea and a garbanzo bean?

President Trump never had a garbanzo bean on his face.

 

[Wizard of Whatever]

Good strawberries with sugar are the best, along with fresh picked blackberries.

 

[Olga]

Everyone everywhere calls it borscht. We even have a region in the state of New York called the Borscht Belt - so-called because many Russian Jewish emigres fleeing the pogroms settled there.

Они до сих пор не разучились варить борщ?

 

[Olga]

Sounds like the Epicurean equivalent of wearing teeshirts outside in a South Dakota winter. College boys here will do that occasionally. Sort of a low-key machismo.


Yes, real blueberries are delicious. As for your tasteless kiwi, it probably didn't ripen. They really do take eons to reach the point of a sweet and sort of citrusy flavor.

Дикая черника не только вкусная, но и очень полезная. Она снижает сахар, и восстанавливает зрение. Я сама была свидетелем этого. Моей маме врачи посоветовали замену хрусталика, потому что она стала плохо видеть. Она отказалась от операции, и несколько месяцев ела дикую чернику, собранную в горах. Я была в шоке, когда увидела как она читает бегущую строку на телевизоре без очков, потому что раньше она её и в очках не видела. И сахар в крови у неё стал не 8, а 4. Горную чернику давали космонавтам в СССР, сейчас не знаю.

 

[Olga]

You can cook too? (Gets out book, ticks box)

Yes I like cooking, I'm a savoury person not sweet. So it is meat, onions, coriander and Garlic, not sugar, vanilla and cinnamon.

Я тоже люблю мясо, а соленья традиционно присутствую на русском столе. Хотя, я на Юге живу, и кухня у нас не совсем русская. Она богаче, в ней много мяса, острых и овощных блюд, хорошего вина, и фруктовых дистиллятов.

 

[exchemist]

Meh. I wouldn't go that far. It's rebranding for a different market. We call the garbanzo bean the chickpea, the US call the aubergine "eggplant", and we call hundreds of dishes "curry". And don't get me started on the whole Marathon / Snickers debacle.

Garbanzo bean was new to me. In French it’s pois chiche, so also chick pea, which seems to come from Latin. Garbanzo seems to come from another Greek word for the same thing which ended up in Spanish.

 

[parmalee]

Have they still not forgotten how to cook borscht?

Most people never knew how to cook borscht correctly in the first place. If you don't start by sauteing onions, adding tomato paste and cooking until caramelized, and then deglazing with red wine, you're doing it wrong.

 

[Olga]

Most people never knew how to cook borscht correctly in the first place. If you don't start by sauteing onions, adding tomato paste and cooking until caramelized, and then deglazing with red wine, you're doing it wrong.

Томатную пасту (а лучше томат)добавляют в борщ зимой, летом добавляют свежие помидоры, так вкуснее. Но обычно летом, когда много свежих овощей, закатывают в банки так называемую "борщевую заправку", в которую входят томаты, болгарский перец, и специи. Чем то похоже на лечо. Чтобы кто то добавлял в борщ вино, я не видела ни разу. Если только отдельно в бокале, да и то, с борщём лучше пойдёт стопка хорошей фруктовой водки.

 

[parmalee]

Tomato paste (or better yet, tomato paste) is added to borscht in winter; in summer, fresh tomatoes are added—it tastes better that way. But usually in summer, when fresh vegetables are plentiful, people can make a so-called "borscht dressing" in jars, which includes tomatoes, bell peppers, and spices. It's somewhat similar to lecho. I've never seen anyone add wine to borscht. Only occasionally, in a glass, and even then, a shot of good fruit vodka goes better with borscht.

The wine is just for deglazing (maybe that isn't translating properly?), so it's just like 15 or 30 cc. One could also use water or vegetable stock.

 

[Olga]

The wine is just for deglazing (maybe that isn't translating properly?), so it's just like 15 or 30 cc. One could also use water or vegetable stock.

В борщ ещё часто добавляют сметану, прямо в чашку. Я в детстве любила вылавливать её из чашки целиком, не размешивая. Холодная сметана в горячем борще... класс!

 

[parmalee]

Sour cream is often added to borscht, right into the bowl. As a child, I loved scooping it out whole, without stirring. Cold sour cream in hot borscht... perfect!

Yes! (Though I use vegan sour cream.) Also hot or cold.

 

[Olga]

Yes! (Though I use vegan sour cream.) Also hot or cold.

Мама ещё часто варила борщ с консервированной фасолью, он не хуже мясного.

 

[TheVat]

(Though I use vegan sour cream.)

Vegan sour cream. Three words that should never appear together. 45 years a pesco-vegetarian and I still can't abide vegan foods which attempt to simulate the animal-derived original. (One exception: vegan egg. Egg isn't all that palatable to begin with, so if you want to serve a mung bean based egg, it's not too bad) Ripple pea protein milk is okay - it's not trying to be like a cow's milk and it has a nice creamy mouthfeel over cereal. Anyway, if I don't eat dairy I just don't eat dairy - none of this vegan cheese, vegan sour cream abomination.

 

[Olga]

Vegan sour cream. Three words that should never appear together. 45 years a pesco-vegetarian and I still can't abide vegan foods which attempt to simulate the animal-derived original. (One exception: vegan egg. Egg isn't all that palatable to begin with, so if you want to serve a mung bean based egg, it's not too bad) Ripple pea protein milk is okay - it's not trying to be like a cow's milk and it has a nice creamy mouthfeel over cereal. Anyway, if I don't eat dairy I just don't eat dairy - none of this vegan cheese, vegan sour cream abomination.

Теват, вегатарианство, и веганство - это же не одно и то же? Веганы - не едят вообще ничего животного, даже молочку. А вегетарианцы не едят только мясо, рыбу, и яйца. Т.е. то, что нужно убить, чтобы съесть.

 

[parmalee]

Vegan sour cream. Three words that should never appear together. 45 years a pesco-vegetarian and I still can't abide vegan foods which attempt to simulate the animal-derived original. (One exception: vegan egg. Egg isn't all that palatable to begin with, so if you want to serve a mung bean based egg, it's not too bad) Ripple pea protein milk is okay - it's not trying to be like a cow's milk and it has a nice creamy mouthfeel over cereal. Anyway, if I don't eat dairy I just don't eat dairy - none of this vegan cheese, vegan sour cream abomination.

Dairy simulacra from Violife and Myoko's are actually pretty good. Otherwise, mostly crap. Or, I make my own.

 

[parmalee]

Vegetarianism and veganism aren't the same thing, are they? Vegans don't eat anything animal-based, not even dairy. Vegetarians only don't eat meat, fish, and eggs. That is, anything that has to be killed to be eaten.

Correct. I'm vegan, have been for 40 years now.