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Re: Guru
i wanted to point out a key distinction i have found in this particular commnet which can be said in either way depending on who you talk to. but as for hinduism, which is where gurus (particularly as a term and practise) came from. according to Paramhansa Yogananda, Lahiri Mahasaya, and Sai Baba, all three world reknowned gurus of their time and now, all say the same thing on the question of who as it relates to GURU.
A guru is a person who has been specifically ordained by god, not in seeming, but in actuality, god apeared and ordained them to be a Guru (the point of who knows for sure can be debated but is not the issue here, and one would like to believe in the noticable features of integrity) or must be ordained byu a Guru himself. one cannot learnt he truth and simply decide that now that you know, it is time to be a guru, but rather you must be chosen by god (existence itself in some chosen form) or by a guru (which by that point is actually not a person at all, but rather a vessel for god, a tool, without wants or thoughts, only just a peice of the divine that has once again recconnected.
Originally posted by Rajagopals
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Who ?
The one who has reached the truth. one who understands that the information which he is sharing is not his, but the ‘collective sense’ itself. The one who do not feel proud for reaching that stage, but one who guards the info from falling in to the wrong hands, one who is 'one with the universe', one who believes in nature and natural way of happening, one who is happy for being who he is, one who is in love, one who is as crazy as you can think one can become, one who is so beautiful to spend time with, one who is very short tempered as his expectations from you is very high etc etc.
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i wanted to point out a key distinction i have found in this particular commnet which can be said in either way depending on who you talk to. but as for hinduism, which is where gurus (particularly as a term and practise) came from. according to Paramhansa Yogananda, Lahiri Mahasaya, and Sai Baba, all three world reknowned gurus of their time and now, all say the same thing on the question of who as it relates to GURU.
A guru is a person who has been specifically ordained by god, not in seeming, but in actuality, god apeared and ordained them to be a Guru (the point of who knows for sure can be debated but is not the issue here, and one would like to believe in the noticable features of integrity) or must be ordained byu a Guru himself. one cannot learnt he truth and simply decide that now that you know, it is time to be a guru, but rather you must be chosen by god (existence itself in some chosen form) or by a guru (which by that point is actually not a person at all, but rather a vessel for god, a tool, without wants or thoughts, only just a peice of the divine that has once again recconnected.
Rajagopals
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Pechinal kittumo perimbam thaneda,
Peyarakku sonnal koopam varumeda,
Nasikku nere nadu nettikulleda,
Nathan thiru natanam aduraan pareda,
…from an old Tamil (Indian Language!) text book
The poem says,
Pechinal kittumo perimbam thaneda,
- If you add (suffix) names like Ananda, Baba, Hamsa etc to the name will it get the perfection of its real meaning and its effects,
Peyarakku sonnal koopam varumeda,
- The mad guys (people who only know the literal meaning of practice of Pranayama) will get more upset if we say the same,
Nasikku nere nadu nettikulleda,
- Exactly above the nose inside the forehead,
Nathan thiru natanam aduraan pareda,
- Is where you find your Guru (Nathan), the one who is doing him cosmic dance !
Breaking the same for more clarity :
Pechinal = if we say
kittumo = will we get
perimbam = tune of the name
thaneda, = hey Boy
Peyarakku = mad people
sonnal = if we say
koopam = get angry
varumeda, = will come
Nasikku = Nose
nere = directly above
nadu = middle
nettikulleda = forehead
Nathan = Guru
Thiru natanam = Cosmic Dance
aduraan = dancing
pareda, = See that Boy !
These are literal meanings and could even be wrong (because of my limited knowledge of Tamil!)
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