When I read your posts, I hear Kelsey Grammar's voice in my head.To some of us, you are your avatar.![]()
When I read your posts, I hear Kelsey Grammar's voice in my head.To some of us, you are your avatar.![]()
ive been recently studying(a hunch i had) "narcissistic defense mechanisms" conscious & unconscious.
it is my recent discovery that i suspect narcissistic subconscious defense is an invasive species which muddys the water between being able to clearly define the difference between a person with CB negative behaviour patterns and someone suffering from BPD or narcissistic personality disorder(generalised).
Freud was no stranger to the mysoginistic process through association of male hate toward the developmental child.
thus the self association to validate ones own belittlement to service the victim as a form of ND(conscious) would be quite normal.
i think this trait range of disorder is specifically highlighted in the babyboomers because of the black & white difference between emotional development and gender seperation normalcy through emotional relationships and societal function.
matched with self actualisation.
Because the two balls and the big stick that is replaced with a gun amuses me...Talking of avatars.
Bells, you have two balls in your avatar, so why are you called Bells and not Balls?
I can understand if this post is ignored.
It's called self preservation.
Most species are able to identify a predator or potential predator and steer clear.
Aww..
Would you like a cookie?
You being ugly or poor is not the cause. It's your personality.
It's the fact that you are looking solely at aesthetics instead of substance.
It's the fact that you're the dude who carries on because you deem yourself worthy of only the best, while demonising everyone else and then blaming the women for giving you a berth wide enough to park the titanic in sideways.
As I said, it's your personality.
That is probably true, but the kind of men who murder their wives are not incel. Incels do not have wives.the homicide rate is roughly 45% of ALL murder is domestic murder of a women by a partner.
Whatever gave you the impression that I would support an ideology that is harmful and deadly to women and men for that matter? That views women as pieces of meat?Bells, I have been reading your posts, and you seem like you are a bigot of incels.
Err okay..You claim that all incels are either violent or morons.
One does not automatically mean the other.Well I have news for you, not all incels are violent, and many are intelligent and nerds.
I am not talking about 4chan. I am talking about what you and at least one other have stated in this thread.The views coming from 4chan are not reflective of all incels. I tried to explain that to you, but you don't want to hear it. You read a couple articles on Huffington post, which demonizes incels and says they are violent, then you, in typical bigot fashion extrapolate that information to all incels.
Incels, meaning involuntary celibate. I have read some posts from r/incel which are non-violent, I have even read posts on incels.me which are non-violent. But convincing a bigot to abandon lumping everyone into the same boat, is always an uphill climb. Bigotry is a result of binary thinking: A way of life that treats everyone the same, all of group X is either good, or all of group X is evil.
Yes and this is what I am saying, generally women do not see a prospect of enjoying herself during a sexual encounter. This is why women play hard to get, also why bars exist and are so profitable, because women are generally not sexually attracted to men unless they are under the influence of mind altering chemicals.
No, a date or dating does not imply sexual contact. If you think a date or dating a woman implies sexual contact, then you could very well be raping her, particularly if you take to drugging her first.Obvious dating would imply sexual contact, unless someone was some prude or asexual who just wanted to not be lonely.
If you are stressing a woman because you think that will turn her on, then it's safe to say that you are doing it wrong. To the one, if you are making a woman afraid or making her feel fearful, then the sex is not implied and consent is not going to be given. Making women so stressed out because you think it leads to sexual attraction, through either fear, discomfort, paranoia (no, seriously, what the actual fuck?), then that is violent. Stressing someone out like that is psychological abuse.Sexual attraction happens under stress. This is an evolutionary mechanism. The stress must not be too high, paranoia kills sexual attraction. And yet the stress must not be too low, as it instills a lull of complacency.
I have provided you link after link after link. You have provided cartoons and horrific judgement and opinions of your own bad personality.You demonstrate more evidence of this kind of thinking when you claim all incels have bad personalities, and that it could never be due to their looks or social status. Where is your evidence? You just make these statements out of thin air.
That actually makes a lot of sense.... It now makes sense as to why you stated earlier that your therapist saw nothing wrong with your goddamn sick attitude.For instance, I had a therapist, he was incel.
You still do not understand what is wrong with the whole attitude and culture of "incels", do you? Still? After how many pages?A total pacifist and meek kind of person, who believed in Jesus. Surely he is not a "predator" like you claim all involuntary celibates are? And what about the weakling beta males? Women often pass them up, to date predatory and abusive, alpha males.
The incel is the bigot.Another point you seem to be missing, is that most incels did not start out violent, but became that way after multiple rejects and social ostracizations. Does not excuse their violence, however it points out you have a misplaced sense of cause and effect, bigots tend to claim that people who are oppressed are the sole cause of their own oppression.
In simple terms, so you cannot twist it around and resort to emotional red herrings: Incels did not wake up one morning hating or wishing violence on women. They got that way after a repeated string of rejections and social ostrizations. Therefore you cannot empirically claim their hatred/violence is the original cause of their rejections.
Firstly, you completely took what I said out of context which is very dishonest of you.I come out saying, women are excessively picky, predatory, and only pick out males who conform to a rigid set of standards.
Then you side step the issue, saying "women avoid men because they are violent".
Because the incel movement itself is violent in its very nature.The whole argument had nothing to do with violence, you bring up the topic as an emotional appeal to distract from discussing the topics I present, it is a red herring, a trick you use.
Wow.. Just wow..So my main points are this: Women do not always avoid violent men, 45% of murders are of their wives or girlfriends. Therefore, women have a flawed ability to accurately detect which man will be violent and who isn't. Since women ending up in violent marriages is so common, and incels getting dates is so uncommon, we cannot accurately statistically correlate the two phenomenon as reliable cause and effect. Rather, the reliable cause and effect of incel is this:
Womens preferences: Obedience to social norms, have good social status, be of good pedigree, and a good income. If you are a male who has a low income, does not conform to social norms, is not fully white or fully black, or does not have many friends, you will have a tougher time finding a woman. It has been statistically proven that women are racist on OkCupid and other dating sites. If you wont admit their racism, then you are defending racists from being examined or put under scrutiny.
What?Now there is one more thing I didn't mention: Confidence. If you don't have confidence, women won't treat you like a person. Let's examine the reality here: Women want you to entertain them. And if you can't entertain them, the will be bored with you.
Did you get this shit out of 'Incels R Us' magazine or something?And lets put forth the final piece of the puzzle: Unreasonable standards. For example, certain women would not date a man who had a zodiac sign they did not approve of. That is a sign of extreme picky behavoir and bigotry: Judging someone negatively over circumstances outside of their control.
Validation about their self worth?Let's examine the facts with no more bs: Men want women for sex, validation about his self-worth, and emotional support. Women want men for entertainment, sex, financial support, emotional support, and validation of her social-worth.
For instance, I had a therapist, he was incel. A total pacifist and meek kind of person, who believed in Jesus. Surely he is not a "predator" like you claim all involuntary celibates are?
That actually makes a lot of sense.... It now makes sense as to why you stated earlier that your therapist saw nothing wrong with your goddamn sick attitude.
A therapist that believed in Jesus? That'd be a red flag in my books. Why the fuck would that topic need even come up in therapy?
Yeah, true. The Jesus is exponentially way cooler than that.Moreover, what kind of "therapist" tells his patient that he (the therapist) is an incel?
Yeah, true. The Jesus is exponentially way cooler than that.
Thing is, this "incel" concept is still fairly new to me. There are so many despicable people out there that, Elliot Rodger, didn't strike a chord, and I've been privileged enough to be able to navigate away from uncool situations. It wasn't till the attack in Toronto when it got on my radar.I think we can reasonably conclude that many of gamelord's tales are just fabricated bullshit, but can you even imagine a therapist who is an incel? Would he have female patients? What would he possibly say to them?
Though I could believe that he had a therapist who is a misogynist--there's a lot of those out there. Psychology, psychiatry, and neurology are overrun with them, in fact. I'm not gonna back up that claim with hard evidence, as, for obvious reasons, such is largely nonexistent. What does exist, however, is an abundance of anecdotal evidence. That said, there are studies that show that women are far more likely to be diagnosed with BPD, whereas men, exhibiting the same markers, will be diagnosed with PTSD. Also--and this one is more anecdotal--women are less likely to receive an epilepsy diagnosis; rather, they are told they are suffering from anxiety and panic attacks.
Here is where the bs begins.Whatever gave you the impression that I would support an ideology that is harmful and deadly to women and men for that matter? That views women as pieces of meat?
I think it's more like a whine.Incel is not an idealogy. It is a condition.
I don't think it qualifies as a condition as it started in 1993 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel#HistoryIncel is not an idealogy. It is a condition.
You start with a bigotted statement, saying that "incel is an idealogy".
Black is not an idealogy. It is a condition.
Incel is not an idealogy. It is a condition.
Do you believe having sex with someone is your right or a mutually agreed interaction between two people?Incel is not an idealogy. It is a condition.
Just to be picky again, could your therapist prescribe drugs, or at least refer you to a doctor (i.e. psychiatrist) that could?For instance, I had a therapist, he was incel. A total pacifist and meek kind of person, who believed in Jesus.
Incels have been around before 1993, there have been people who could not get a date before then. However, ever since 1993 it has been getting harder and harder to get a date in America.I don't think it qualifies as a condition as it started in 1993 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel#History
To contrast, I looked up transgender and the wiki had a mention at 2000-1800 BCE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_history#Ancient_history
That is my whole point. Incel is involuntary, thus it is not a choice.A person can't choose to be black.
And do you even know what the term "ideology" means? Or "condition," for that matter?
I believe sex is a human need, but that it is morally wrong to force someone to have sex.Do you believe having sex with someone is your right or a mutually agreed interaction between two people?
I don't get why people have so much faith in drugs. Many of them have side effects. What is your goal here? To reduce my libido? Then we still have the problem of loneliness itself.Just to be picky again, could your therapist prescribe drugs, or at least refer you to a doctor (i.e. psychiatrist) that could?
Its not a human need. Saying that is a like a guy trying to tell a girl that a man would die if they didn't get sex. That would be lying, right?I believe sex is a human need, but that it is morally wrong to force someone to have sex.
Many incels do die and commit suicide.Its not a human need. Saying that is a like a guy trying to tell a girl that a man would die if they didn't get sex. That would be lying, right?