Fear God? Which God?.....

ольга said:
And in your opinion, is perfect emptiness the best thing that can be? Well, to each his own... non-existence is your choice... but there is no such thing as non-existence.
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That we exist is obvious, that we do not exist is less obvious.


ольга said:
In emptiness, albums are not needed.
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"Life without music would be a mistake"
_Herr Doktor Professor Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche.
 
Killjoy said:
That we exist is obvious, that we do not exist is less obvious.



"Life without music would be a mistake"
_Herr Doktor Professor Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche.
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"Я мыслю, следовательно, я существую". Кстати, а что такое пустота?

Музыка и пустота - несовместимы.
 
Killjoy said:
Doesn't seem on the face of it that his would be something to fear. I guess it would depend on what he showed up to do.
Don't be trying to "redeem my soul" or any of that there nonsense. I'll just do my time on the old mudball and take that good, long nap once it's done, thank you very much.
Of course, some "surrealistic" being showing up clothed in radiant glory, &tc. is liable to cause me the same sort of freak out it seemed most of your everyday folks in the Bible confronted with Angels & whatnot suffered.
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I'll not go on about the Holy God I believe in too much, just to say it's an it, no gender.
 
(Q) said:
Orthodoxy - authorized or generally accepted theory, doctrine, or practice. Oxford Dictionary.

Why is it a problem to attack a theory, doctrine or practice?
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Because it is directly anti-thetical to the purpose of the Religion subforum.
 
ольга said:
By the way, what is emptiness?
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*SARCASM ALERT*
This is sarcasm. I mean - it's like... ...well, you know - sarcasm. Plus and then, too it's me being sarcastic...

I'm pretty sure emptiness is when you've read the umpteenth footnote in one of Tiassa's posts, only to realize that neither this footnote, nor any of the previous, nor in fact the bulk of what they reference serves to elucidate the alleged points aforementioned in the post, nor in fact anything save some bizarre personal experience in his life which is also not explained sufficiently by either the post or the footnotes for you to grasp either it's significance as it relates to whatever overall point he may (or may not) have been attempting to make, or to some personal experience he may (or may not have had).
 
Killjoy said:
I'm pretty sure emptiness is when you've read the umpteenth footnote in one of Tiassa's posts, only to realize that neither this footnote, nor any of the previous, nor in fact the bulk of what they reference serves to elucidate the alleged points aforementioned in the post, nor in fact anything save some bizarre personal experience in his life which is also not explained sufficiently by either the post or the footnotes for you to grasp either it's significance as it relates to whatever overall point he may (or may not) have been attempting to make, or to some personal experience he may (or may not have had).
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This should be enshrined in a locked, pinned post at the top of the social/politics forums.
 
It seems odd and arbitrary to narrow down the scope of this to the God of Israel. But that's my boilerplate complaint whenever any theological subject is brought up. I protest against the hegemony of monotheism.

In any case, it depends on what is meant by "fear"? Should we quake in terror at the wrath of the gods? I don't think so. I don't think we have anything to fear from them in that, because I don't think gods are so thin-skinned that we should be anxious over upsetting them. They got bigger things to focus on.

Now, "fear" in the sense of awe and reverence for a power much greater than one's own? Sure. The same way that I would express that emotion towards the ocean, or a mountain, or the sun. It's less "oh no it's going to hurt me, how do I placate it" and more a simple recognition of one's own smallness in the universe and acting accordingly out of respect. Is there some self-preservation instinct at play? Maybe. But I think it's overridden by the feeling of awe, and the power such a thing has to anchor everything around it.
 
Hapsburg said:
It seems odd and arbitrary to narrow down the scope of this to the God of Israel. But that's my boilerplate complaint whenever any theological subject is brought up. I protest against the hegemony of monotheism.

In any case, it depends on what is meant by "fear"? Should we quake in terror at the wrath of the gods? I don't think so. I don't think we have anything to fear from them in that, because I don't think gods are so thin-skinned that we should be anxious over upsetting them. They got bigger things to focus on.

Now, "fear" in the sense of awe and reverence for a power much greater than one's own? Sure. The same way that I would express that emotion towards the ocean, or a mountain, or the sun. It's less "oh no it's going to hurt me, how do I placate it" and more a simple recognition of one's own smallness in the universe and acting accordingly out of respect. Is there some self-preservation instinct at play? Maybe. But I think it's overridden by the feeling of awe, and the power such a thing has to anchor everything around it.
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Indeed. That sense of "fear", perhaps an older meaning than the one prevalent today, is how I have always understood its use in Christianity. There is, naturally, a Wiki article about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_God
 
Hapsburg said:
It seems odd and arbitrary to narrow down the scope of this to the God of Israel. But that's my boilerplate complaint whenever any theological subject is brought up. I protest against the hegemony of monotheism.

In any case, it depends on what is meant by "fear"? Should we quake in terror at the wrath of the gods? I don't think so. I don't think we have anything to fear from them in that, because I don't think gods are so thin-skinned that we should be anxious over upsetting them. They got bigger things to focus on.

Now, "fear" in the sense of awe and reverence for a power much greater than one's own? Sure. The same way that I would express that emotion towards the ocean, or a mountain, or the sun. It's less "oh no it's going to hurt me, how do I placate it" and more a simple recognition of one's own smallness in the universe and acting accordingly out of respect. Is there some self-preservation instinct at play? Maybe. But I think it's overridden by the feeling of awe, and the power such a thing has to anchor everything around it.
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The biblical God(The Father) is not a God you want to tangle with. As Killjoy says, pray you don't get his attention. Just read on the web his deeds, and power. Yes, it's natural to fear Him. I'm not discussing Zeus or Jupiter.
 
davewhite04 said:
The biblical God(The Father) is not a God you want to tangle with. As Killjoy says, pray you don't get his attention. Just read on the web his deeds, and power. Yes, it's natural to fear Him. I'm not discussing Zeus or Jupiter.
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If its' actions are such that it wants you to fear it, then it is just an egotistical bastard, not a god.
 
davewhite04 said:
The biblical God(The Father) is not a God you want to tangle with. As Killjoy says, pray you don't get his attention. Just read on the web his deeds, and power. Yes, it's natural to fear Him. I'm not discussing Zeus or Jupiter.
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The Greek gods were best avoided. (much like mad dogs)
 
Hapsburg said:
Now, "fear" in the sense of awe and reverence for a power much greater than one's own? Sure. The same way that I would express that emotion towards the ocean, or a mountain, or the sun.
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That would be true if we could also see God.
 
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