Fallacy , Space can be bent , warped or contorted .

ok, that brings up a simple question. After that, I'll leave it alone

Is the following statement true or false.


Pinball1970
Thank you for your patience and sound advice. But I have no problem with GR. I can intuit the causal functions, without the scientific details.
It's not NEW!

10 inter-connected partial differential equations​


This is theoretical science and deals with universal mathematics. Note that I have confidence in a mathematical aspect to universal mechanics and Einstein's understanding and command of universal mathematics

But I am intrigued by spacetime curvature from quantum patterns that seem to emerge from very simple fundamental universal processes and are just now being observed due to more powerful observation techniques.

It is Quantum Gravity that intrigues me, because to me, the term quanta as packets with abstract but causal values would suggest a fractal unfolding of fundamental universal geometry, as conceptually described in CDT (Causal Dynamical Triangulation), the simplest 2D pattern that meets the reductionist standard of simplicity and operation consistently across the universe.

Evidence of fractal structures in hadrons​

  • Regular Article - Theoretical Physics
  • Published: 26 April 2024

Abstract​



And this seems to confirm the existence of fundamental emergent fractal patterns (curvature) at subatomic levels.

Quantum fractal patterns visualized
Feb. 28, 2025



https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-024-08550-2 (Link is external)

Why should this be controversial to the point of censure? I see it as exciting new knowlege to chew on.
I believe that over time, the concept of a fractal universe will meet the qualifying properties of the "blind watchmaker" buried as a probability in the unfolding of the universal spacetime fabric.

Ok , this is my final post in this otherwise informative thread. I do not wish to offend, but I reserve the right to pursue my preferred subjects. when they are pertinent (IMO) to the OP title.
What balls. You don't give a toss about offending, that is clear. You have no "right" to post on your preferred subjects when they are off-topic. Random stuff about fractals obviously is off-topic.
 
What balls. You don't give a toss about offending, that is clear. You have no "right" to post on your preferred subjects when they are off-topic. Random stuff about fractals obviously is off-topic.
It's just his usual Gish Gallop. Nothing new.
 
In the end space can not be bent or contorted in any way , by anything physical . No matter the scale .
Space and the physical ( the periodic table ) . Rocks and things . Non-living things . Never interact with each other .
Space and the Physical never interact with each other . They never connect together on any level .
 
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In the end space can not be bent or contorted in any way , by anything physical . No matter the scale .
Space and the physical ( the periodic table ) . Rocks and things . Non-living things . Never interact with each other .
Space and the Physical never interact with each other . They never connect together on any level .
Reported for spamming the same idiotic mindless shit you put on every thread. Idiot
 
In the end space can not be bent or contorted in any way , by anything physical.
So I guess the fact that spacetime is actually warped by gravity must be upsetting to you.

Space and the Physical never interact with each other . They never connect together on any level .
Molecules are literally defined by the space between the various atoms that make up the molecule.
 
Spacetime . Can not be bent In the literal sense . Because space can not be grasped a hold of . Not by " gravity " or anything else .
Space , its self , does not interact with the physical .
 
Spacetime . Can not be bent In the literal sense . Because space can not be grasped a hold of.
Yes, you yourself cannot "grab" spacetime and bend it. That is correct.

Not by " gravity " or anything else .

Gravity can indeed bend spacetime. We know this because we see gravity bend spacetime.

Space , its self , does not interact with the physical .

I gave you an example above where that was proven false.
 
Rotation bends the material in space , not gravity . Gravity on its own does not spin or rotate . Nor bend space .
Gravity is about mass , in the macro world . Fine . But mass doesn't rotate on its own .
So why does rotation , or spin exist ? Explain planetary rings , along its rotating equatorial plane . And the planets along the equatorial plane of the Sun . For the most part . The further out you go , the less on the equatorial of the Sun the planet is .
 
Rotation bends the material in space , not gravity . Gravity on its own does not spin or rotate . Nor bend space .
Gravity is about mass , in the macro world . Fine . But mass doesn't rotate on its own .
So why does rotation , or spin exist ? Because rotation captures energy . And rotation or spin , is natural state of energy .
Otherwise all the energy would just go into space .

Explain planetary rings , along its rotating equatorial plane . And the planets along the equatorial plane of the Sun . For the most part . The further out you go , the less on the equatorial plane of the Sun the planet is .
 
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In the end Space can not be bent , warped or contorted . Physically .
You literally just got back from being infracted - twice - for being unable to explain, let alone defend, your assertions.

At some point, the infractions will accumulate and you will be perma-banned.
 
Rotation bends the material in space , not gravity . .
Rotation doesn't "bend the material in space."

Gravity is about mass , in the macro world . Fine . But mass doesn't rotate on its own .

Nor does it need to to create gravity.

So why does rotation , or spin exist ?

Newtonian physics, known for hundreds of years. Plenty of high school physics textbooks to explain that if you are curious.

Explain planetary rings , along its rotating equatorial plane

Planetary rings - things orbit planets. Moons, artificial satellites etc. Over time, if there's enough stuff, everything ends up in a fairly common orbit, because if it does NOT end up in that common orbit, it hits OTHER things in the common orbit, and is either destroyed or is slowed by the collisions until it assumes that common orbit - at which point there are no more collisions. That is true whether the planet is rotating or not.

Now, you ask, so why is it exactly on the equator on rotating planets? Because of a process called differential precession. Inclined orbits usually precess — the place where they cross the equator changes longitude thanks to planets being squashed at their poles from its rotation. (Gives them an uneven mass distribution.) The rate of precession depends on how far you are from the planet, so closer-in orbits precess faster. This causes what once was an inclined sheet of material to wind up into something that looks more like a spiral. (In fact, you can see such a structure in the inner regions of Saturn's rings, where there’s less stuff to damp out vertical motion.)

Eventually, the spiral will get so tight that nearby particles are not crossing the ring plane at the same time, and collide, to start damping the vertical motion of the ring. And the only place that DOESN'T happen is in an exactly equatorial orbit, which means that once the rings get there, they stay there.
And the planets along the equatorial plane of the Sun .

They all condensed out of the same rotating sphere - then disk - of material. So of course they stay in about the same place.

Again, this is high school physics.
 
In the end Space can not be bent , warped or contorted . Physically .
You are factually incorrect. And the correct answer has been explained to you a dozen times. At this point I am not sure if you are:

1) a simple troll
2) mentally disabled, such that you do not have the basic intelligence to read and understand English
3) mentally ill, such that you feel that if you admit that physics is real, the black helicopters will get you or something
 
Its a fallacy that space çan be bent etc .
To do so means that space its self can be grasped by a physical object . Spinning . But space can't be grasped a hold of .
Spinning or rotation of a physical object does not connect with space it's self .
 
Nothing wrong with me . And Nothing wrong with my thinking .
Then why do you display such appalling ignorance of basic physics? I am leaning more and more to mental incapacity; you are simply incapable of understanding physics, and thus you make up simplified explanations that your limited mind can accept (i.e. rotation causes gravity.)
 
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