Everyday anomalies

Strange glowing blue worm captured on video in 4 different locations. Watch the whole video. Seems like a living creature of some sort..Perhaps a sentient plasmoid.

 
Strange flat symmetrical shape morphs into some new kind of glowing creature.

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"This video was taken by an ROV (remotely operated vehicle) at a depth of 3753 ft in the Indian Ocean within close proximity to a drill wellhead. Near the end of the footage you can see the creature getting caught up in the output from the ROV thrusters. The video has not been altered and was taken off the East coast of Africa.


 
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OK so it's a deep sea jellyfish. One of a million varieties. Fascinating, to be sure, but anomalous? Or are we missing something you're seeing?
 
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That's common with deep sea creatures, especailly medusozoa. They have diaphanous bodies; their shapes are quite fluid.

Also, like all 3D objects, they can look completely different between front and side. Parts of their bodies are transparent and relatively undifferentiated, which can easily make any 3D object look flat without the visual clues we're used to on dry land.

"It's all right there in the video" is obviously different to you than to me.

Maybe we should clarify what you mean by anomalous. Do you mean unusual? Out of the ordinary? Or do you think it means paranormal/unexplainable?
 
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The fucking software won't quit putting my response in a quote box. Here it is anyway.
No it isn't. It was on the Science Channel series "Strange Evidence" and scientists couldn't explain how it morphed from the first black 2D shape into a new 3D creature. It's anomalous because it defies explanation. And the creature itself isn't diaphanous. Unlike jellyfish it's solid black.
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Magical Realist said:
The fucking software won't quit putting my response in a quote box. Here it is anyway.
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Magical Realist said:
No it isn't. It was on the Science Channel series "Strange Evidence" and scientists couldn't explain how it morphed from the first black 2D shape
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It wouldn't be much of a show about "Strange" if they said: "This is pretty normal for sea creatures, actually".
Just because they allege for their TV show that they "can't" explain it doesn't mean it can't be explained.

I have provided one explanation (certainly the most obvious and almost certainly correct), based on nothing more than what thousands of deep sea creatures do all the time (something I guess the Producers of "Strange Evidence" are unaware of).

It doesn't matter if you don't agree with the explanation; it still explains the video with out resorting to anything anomalous.

- Deep sea creatures are ubiquitously fluid in their body shapes.
- Deep sea imagery and deep sea biology is not the same as terrestrial imagery. The highlight/shadow clues are flat, removing the 3D cues we look for. It doesn't mean they are actually flat, let alone 2D.
- But yes, many deep sea creatures can make themselves quite flat too. They're not solid like land creatures. They don't even have muscles; they have hydraulics, which are transparent.
- 3D objects, when turned at a different angle, can look different.

In other words, I see a deep sea jelly fish doing perfectly deep sea jellyfish-like things. It's cool, but it's the opposite of anomalous.

I guess, for want of anything more, it is a learning opportunity about deep sea life.


When I was young, I was going to be the next Jacques Cousteau (he's a famous scuba diver and scientist. In fact S.C.U.B.A. was his invention).

I have dived among clouds of millions of (harmless) jellyfish. They sparkle with light, just like in the video. An incredible experience. Maybe that's why seeing jellyfish in a video is not mysterious to me.
 
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Magical Realist said:
It refutes your claim that it is a common jellyfish with science experts.
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I did not say "it is a common jellyfish". Please do not misquote me.

I said "That's common with deep sea creatures, especially medusozoa. They have diaphanous bodies; their shapes are quite fluid."

In other words: 'fluid, diaphanous bodies' is a common trait of all sorts of deep sea creatures, including jellyfish.

The only reason you think it seems to be two dimensional is because
- the normal highlights and shadows of terrestrial light on terrestrial muscled bodies are absent in the ocean depths. Things can look very different. You can't trust your eyes to truthfully tell you what things are actually shaped like.
- deep sea creatures have no need to support their structures, and ancient creatures like these have less differentiation in their structure. They easily look featureless and that can appear flat to the inexperienced eye. Anyone who studies marine biology is used to creatures like this.

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They are all baffled by how it morphs from the flat black "symbol" to a black glowing creature.
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"Baffled" is theatrics. It's acting, for the show. There is a whole cook book of techniques reality/or docu-drama shows use to make the show's content look compelling. This is well-known. The large majority of shows on the History Channel, the Sy-Fy Channel, and other cable channels use this ubiquitously.

Let me tell you this: no actual and honest marine biologist in the world is even slightly puzzled by what is seen in this video.

That is not you say that you are are not welcome to take the word of anyone you want on a reality/docu-drama TV show. Your belief is your own business. But it is of zero value to any defense of any science discussion. In fact, this reference is of negative value - you might as well be waving a copy of National Enquirer in your defense. You'd get laughed at for revealing that you believe an infamously-known rag.

More relevantly, the veracity of a TV show - and how they produce their content - is beyond the scope of this thread. We're not here to watch the show and say "Who is that dude in the lab coat? What are his credentials? Is he associated in any way with the actual science?".


TL;DR: "But I saw it on a TV show!" doesn't fly here - any more than it did for Trump in the presidential debate.
 
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Magical Realist said:
It refutes your claim that it is a common jellyfish with science experts. They are all baffled by how it morphs from the flat black "symbol" to a black glowing creature.
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Well this biologist saw a ctenophore, aka comb jelly, and wasn't baffled. Nor was Dave, it seems.

The "comb" refers to rows of cilia fused together like combs. Those cilia are transparent and constantly moving back and forth producing the light show by refracting light that lands on them. The matte black appearance was produced when it was in relative silhouette. As it approaches the rig's light, and reacts to the current jet, it begins to change orientation and the comb sparkles.
 
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Well this biologist saw a ctenophore, aka comb jelly, and wasn't baffled. Nor was Dave, it seems.
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Was engulfed in a cloud of them. Millions. They are so transparent, you just think there's something blurring your vision.
Tried to hold one in my hand. It was so diaphanous I couldn't even feel it. I had to use my eyes to convince myself it was still there.
And yes, everyone of them bio-luminesced, like tiny running Christmas lights.

Still, I don't think that's what's caught MR's attention. He seems fixed on the fact that the creature started off in one shape/orientation and ended up in another shape/orientation. He does not seem to accept that such creatures' shapes are highly fluid. Nor does he seem to accept that - in the light of the deep sea, looking at a sea creature that's flat black - a creature could appear to look flat.

If he runs true-to-form, he's going to post a picture of a deep sea creature and say "This is what a typical deep sea creature looks like. Perfectly 3 dimensional. And therefore (somehow) ALL pics of deep sea creature must look like the one I picked )."
 
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