Dr Watson's views on race seem very sensible.

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Baron Max said:
I think most of the blacks in Africa are too busy making babies that they can't feed, or killing those who've grown up somehow. They don't have time for such things as building space vessels or other such silly stuff as that. :D

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true dat
some people look up into the sky and marvel at the bright shiny lights
others wanna get to em

make a huge difference
 
Spidergoat: Where do I claim any feeling of supremacy? I say none exist but africa cannot rule itself, its been proved time and time, over and over again. Name one African country that is not born of violence or suffers violence? I do not count the arabic states on the Med coast by the way.
 
Red Devil said:
Name one African country that is not born of violence or suffers violence? I do not count the arabic states on the Med coast by the way.
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Zambia is one . I grew up there. And your rash generalizations are unfair. Most people are peaceful, and just want to get on with their lives. Just like any other person on the planet. I've seen just as much if not more violence since coming back to England.

But the political institutions need to mature, they havent been at it for very long. Thats one of the reasons why corrpution is so rampant.
 
Count Sudoku:
Why exactly can't they cover the basics? Let me guess...whitey.
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That's right, Sudoku. I mean, as S.A.M previously mentioned, when she hears of blacks committing barbaric acts, she automatically thinks "Who is supplying them with the weapons?" As if blacks have no free will (racism, some what?) No doubt that if the Rwandans didn't receive shiny guns from the Yanks, they would all put down those machetes, link hands in a circle and sing 'Kumbuya'.
 
spidergoat:
Do you forget a little something called World War Two, which caused the death of over 50million people? No, white people have no claim to superiority on the subject of peace and good governance.
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Sure they do, because World War Two happened over 50 years ago... Duhhhhhhh.
 
mountainhare said:
Count Sudoku:


That's right, Sudoku. I mean, as S.A.M previously mentioned, when she hears of blacks committing barbaric acts, she automatically thinks
"Who is supplying them with the weapons?"
As if blacks have no free will (racism, some what?) No doubt that if the Rwandans didn't receive shiny guns from the Yanks, they would all put down those machetes, link hands in a circle and sing 'Kumbuya'.
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That attitude you speak of is Racist in itself as you point out.
One sees this PC excuse all the times in regard Third Worlders/'People of color'.

Apparently white liberals, or non-white bigots, take for granted they are mental midgets/Inferior (while never saying it, and even as here fighting it) or completely immature and not responsible for their own acts- so white people must me.

4 Years After the Iraq invasion/Liberation.. Muslim Arabs are killing Muslim Arabs by the Thousands, 95% of the casualties there. But the US is of course "responsible", because we freed them to 'do what they want'.. I guess.

mountainhare, this was for you. "White Guilt"

http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=72621
 
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That attitude you speak of is Racist in itself as you point out.
One sees this PC excuse all the times in regard Third Worlders/'People of color'.

Apparently white liberals, or non-white bigots, take for granted they are mental midgets/Inferior (while never saying it, and even as here fighting it) or completely immature and not responsible for their own acts- so white people must me.

4 Years After the Iraq invasion/Liberation.. Muslim Arabs are killing Muslim Arabs by the Thousands, 95% of the casulaties there. But the US is of course "responsible", because we freed them to 'do what they want'.. I guess.
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Liberals are uncritical of minorities because deep down they realize they shouldn't expect any better.
 
Red Devil said:
Spidergoat: Where do I claim any feeling of supremacy? I say none exist but africa cannot rule itself, its been proved time and time, over and over again. Name one African country that is not born of violence or suffers violence? I do not count the arabic states on the Med coast by the way.
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Africa can't rule istelf? Your ignorance is boundless.
 
abu_afak said:
EXACTLY.

Their 'compassionate' stance IS based on the fact They [know] they are superior to minorities.

"White Guilt"

http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=72621
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Or maybe they see no point in the argument, everyone is human and deserves the same chance to suceed as eveyone else. How will it help you suceed if from birth you are told that you arent not as smart as everyone else. Plenty of minorities have accomplished great things, so whats the point?
 
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Or maybe they see no point in the argument, everyone is human and deserves the same chance to suceed as eveyone else.
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So why haven't blacks in sub-Saharan Africa done so? They've had thousands, tens of thousands, of years headstart on the whites ...and couldn't do it. And they're nations are still little more than shitholes!

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How will it help you suceed if from birth you are told that you arent not as smart as everyone else.
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So you're suggesting that we keep lying to them ...to encourage them to succeed like we encourage our little kids in the same way? How racist is that comment?!

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Plenty of minorities have accomplished great things, so whats the point?
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Only a few select individuals. But that says nothing about the conditions of their race as a whole.

When are y'all gonna' quit making excuses for the blacks? Don't ya' get tired of making those excuses?

Baron Max
 
Ganymede said:
Africa can't rule istelf? Your ignorance is boundless.
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No, you're right ....African nations are, indeed, ruling themselves. And they're making a horrid mess of them all! Name one sub-Saharan black nation that is, in any way, succeeding as a world nation. And yet I know many that are sunk in tribal wars, terrorism, and just plain murderous playtimes!

Baron Max
 
shichimenshyo said:
Or maybe they see no point in the argument, everyone is human and deserves the same chance to suceed as eveyone else.
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Agreed,
In fact our Liberal Society has remedial corrective programs; 'Head Start', Affirmative Action, etc that make up for "socio-economic" conditions that are in fact, genetic to a large extent.

How will it help you suceed if from birth you are told that you arent not as smart as everyone else. Plenty of minorities have accomplished great things, so whats the point?
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Nothing precludes any given individual from achieving greatness in any field.
However, the probability of such for different races in Different pursuits vary greatly- dictated by Genes.

Perhaps reality is not pretty- but that doesn't mean it isn't reality.. and doesn't mean it can't be useful in societal planning re education and jobs and special education. (as it's being used now) with for what is called for PC purposes "socio-economic" reasons.
 
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