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parmalee said:
Funny thing about that drum sound is that it started off good--Steve Lillywhite and Hugh Padgham putzing around with gated reverb (and rack delay units) for Peter Gabriel's third album. Even John Lydon and Keith Levene used it extensively on Public Image Limited's Flowers of Romance. Then it just turned to shit, and everyone was using it everywhere--not just for effect, but for overall drum sound.

Same goes for the Sequential Circuits Prophet 5 and 10 really. Insanely pricey gear like that is best used for crazy shit, as Levene does here in "Careering" (starts at 4:10), not for bland, syrupy pabulum. Also, note that Leven is basically just playing a bit from Yes' "Starship Trooper" in "Poptones". (In his youth, he had been a roady for the band.) Hilarious.
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Omg, what a horrible abuse of a Prophet. I can't unhear it now.
 
ольга said:
What's indecent about that, Pin? I just pictured Martin yelling at the referee: "You're still lying, there was no goal! You must be a Christian!"
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That's the problem with believers, they have little idea of what is fact and what is fiction. They either hallucinate a lot or actually think their beliefs are as real as someone scoring a goal. Is it mental illness or gaslighting.
 
(Q) said:
That's the problem with believers, they have little idea of what is fact and what is fiction. They either hallucinate a lot or actually think their beliefs are as real as someone scoring a goal. Is it mental illness or gaslighting.
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Как называется это заболевание, Мартин? Ты, наверное, доктор?
 
(Q) said:
Omg, what a horrible abuse of a Prophet. I can't unhear it now.
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C'mon! That's a pretty exceptional use of a Prophet, comparable to what many maestros would eke out of modulars in earlier days (very Richard Teitelbaum, to my ears).

For the record, I've got not problems with more conventional usages of such. For instance, for some stupid ass reason, Tony Banks opted to abandon his Hammond T-1??, following the Duke tour, both live and in studio. Instead, he recreated a passable tonewheel sound with a Prophet 10. You may be thinking, but the Hammond is the quintessential additive synthesis device, while the Prophet is a standard subtractive synthesis piece of equipment--how on earth would this even be possible? Well, by slaving the second keyboard (the 10 is just two 5s stuck together) to the first, and making use of whatever sinusoidal waves you can tweak out of the thing--and that means using the self-feedback on the resonant filters along with the main oscillators. You can really only get one Hammond "patch" by doing this, and, of course, the key click, percussion, chorus, and all that are separate matters entirely; but still, it makes a passable Hammond (full details can be found in this chapter of Gordon Reid's excellent Synth Secrets series for Sound on Sound).
 
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parmalee said:
C'mon! That's a pretty exceptional use of a Prophet, comparable to what many maestros would eke out of modulars in earlier days (very Richard Teitelbaum, to my ears).

For the record, I've got not problems with more conventional usages of such. For instance, for some stupid ass reason, Tony Banks opted to abandon his Hammond T-1??, following the Duke tour, both live and in studio. Instead, he recreated a passable tonewheel sound with a Prophet 10. You may be thinking, but the Hammond is the quintessential additive synthesis device, while the Prophet is a standard subtractive synthesis piece of equipment--how on earth would this even be possible? Well, by slaving the second keyboard (the 10 is just two 5s stuck together) to the first, and making use of whatever sinusoidal waves you can tweak out of the thing--and that means using the self-feedback on the resonant filters along with the main oscillators. You can really only get one Hammond "patch" by doing this, and, of course, the key click, percussion, chorus, and all that are separate matters entirely; but still, it makes a passable Hammond (full details can be found in this chapter of Gordon Reid's excellent Synth Secrets series for Sound on Sound).
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Didn't understand most of that, but I know you know than me about instrument's and getting your voice ready, it sounds like a good hobby. Nearest I get to performing music is kareoke as Elvis Aaron Presley, The Wonder of You.
 
davewhite04 said:
Didn't understand most of that, but I know you know than me about instrument's and getting your voice ready, it sounds like a good hobby. Nearest I get to performing music is kareoke as Elvis Aaron Presley, The Wonder of You.
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It's also a rather low paying career, especially in the US and the UK, if you mostly make weird music. I can make decent money in continental Europe and parts of Asia, but otherwise... The people I know who've made a decent career (and don't ever have to do anything else) doing weird shit have tended to put in truly insane hours. I'm not cut out for that due to laziness and health issues which make working beyond 30 or 40 hours in a week virtually impossible (honestly, 30 hours is about my limit and I'm also not great with strict scheduling, owing to random periods of unconsciousness).

It's kind of depressing. I could make ok money doing either more conventional stuff, or by doing covers (I don't do covers, except on very rare occasion, and they sound nothing like the original). Neither really appeals to me, and I also honestly don't think I'd be very good at it--I have this thing where if I don't really want to do something, I tend to do it badly. It's either a personality disorder, or just plain obstinance. It is what it is.
 
parmalee said:
It's also a rather low paying career, especially in the US and the UK, if you mostly make weird music. I can make decent money in continental Europe and parts of Asia, but otherwise... The people I know who've made a decent career (and don't ever have to do anything else) doing weird shit have tended to put in truly insane hours. I'm not cut out for that due to laziness and health issues which make working beyond 30 or 40 hours in a week virtually impossible (honestly, 30 hours is about my limit and I'm also not great with strict scheduling, owing to random periods of unconsciousness).

It's kind of depressing. I could make ok money doing either more conventional stuff, or by doing covers (I don't do covers, except on very rare occasion, and they sound nothing like the original). Neither really appeals to me, and I also honestly don't think I'd be very good at it--I have this thing where if I don't really want to do something, I tend to do it badly. It's either a personality disorder, or just plain obstinance. It is what it is.
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It must be frustrating being an artist and struggling. My daughter is an artist, her pictures amazed me(tad biased MAYBE), but I told her mother she needs to pursue something in the science world(her first love is science but art is so tempting), and have art as a hobby, until you break big'ish time, nice side earner or relaxing hobby(I do it, or did for relaxation).
 
davewhite04 said:
It must be frustrating being an artist and struggling. My daughter is an artist, her pictures amazed me(tad biased MAYBE), but I told her mother she needs to pursue something in the science world(her first love is science but art is so tempting), and have art as a hobby, until you break big'ish time, nice side earner or relaxing hobby(I do it, or did for relaxation).
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Yeah, I know a lot of people who make decent money--they can buy a house, have a family (if that's what they want), all that--and their work is good. I also know a lot of people who are exceptionally good, just unconventional, and they don't make nearly enough to do all that--they have to supplement their income with other jobs.

Good artists are almost invariably leftwing, and so the good ones who make decent money tend to go out of their way to support other people who are struggling. I mean, they're not like benefactors in the conventional sense--they don't make that kind of money--but they can afford to offer people free studio time, finance their releases, give them gallery space and promotion, and that sort of thing. But it's still more of a European thing--the idea of financing people who make good art, but has very limited commercial appeal. The governments are behind it as much, if not more, than affluent private citizens.

I have no problems with doing other stuff (outside music, etc.), I like doing other stuff, so I've never really minded also doing writing, making shit (mostly music and electronics related), and even roasting coffee and certain types of "labor" even (though I'm unusually gaunt, so I'm somewhat limited in that regards). But a lot of people are just really good at a particular thing, and that's where they want to put all their time and effort, but it's just quite difficult in a lot of countries.
 
parmalee said:
I have no problems with doing other stuff (outside music, etc.), I like doing other stuff, so I've never really minded also doing writing, making shit (mostly music and electronics related), and even roasting coffee and certain types of "labor" even (though I'm unusually gaunt, so I'm somewhat limited in that regards). But a lot of people are just really good at a particular thing, and that's where they want to put all their time and effort, but it's just quite difficult in a lot of countries.
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Not sure where you live, don't need to share, but living in a first world country(is there any left?), I think free healthcare considering how many people get sick these days. Debt for life if USA citizen, is the #USA a first world country now? Maybe thread worthy.

You have got the right idea, that IS labour.

Pursue your passion, coffee is good for you! My brothers selling account for amazon or eBay was fulltimedreamer, THAT is the way to be.
 
davewhite04 said:
Not sure where you live, don't need to share, but living in a first world country(is there any left?), I think free healthcare considering how many people get sick these days. Debt for life if USA citizen, is the #USA a first world country now? Maybe thread worthy.

You have got the right idea, that IS labour.

Pursue your passion, coffee is good for you! My brothers selling account for amazon or eBay was fulltimedreamer, THAT is the way to be.
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Люди искусства, настоящие люди искусства, которым Бог дал талант, они просто не могут заниматься ничем другим. Они этим живут, это любовь всей их жизни, это самое большое удовольствие в их жизни. Вы же работаете для того, чтобы иметь возможность получать от жизни удовольствия? А они уже их получили от природы.
 
ольга said:
Люди искусства, настоящие люди искусства, которым Бог дал талант, они просто не могут заниматься ничем другим. Они этим живут, это любовь всей их жизни, это самое большое удовольствие в их жизни. Вы же работаете для того, чтобы иметь возможность получать от жизни удовольствия? А они уже их получили от природы.
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You don't make much sense. What do they receive from nature?

If you are gifted sometimes it's a curse, in fact... whenever has it not been? Fun at first, like show biz. the lights go out, bed. Turn on the light, no electricity, no cash to pay for it. Not many Van Gogh's around, especially with a loving brother, married but had Vincent top of his care list. Anything greater then brotherly love? Lennon(John) had ideas....
 
davewhite04 said:
You don't make much sense. What do they receive from nature?

If you are gifted sometimes it's a curse, in fact... whenever has it not been? Fun at first, like show biz. the lights go out, bed. Turn on the light, no electricity, no cash to pay for it. Not many Van Gogh's around, especially with a loving brother, married but had Vincent top of his care list. Anything greater then brotherly love? Lennon(John) had ideas....
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Нет, у них просто другие ценности в жизни. На самом деле для поддержания своего физического состояния человеку нужно не так уж и много - чтобы была простая еда, и крыша над головой. Кстати, не только люди искусства живут своим делом, но и учёные, тоже. У нас есть поговорка: выбери себе дело по душе, и тебе не придётся работать ни одного дня.
 
ольга said:
No, they just have different values in life. In fact, to maintain their physical condition, a person does not need so much - to have simple food and a roof over their head. By the way, not only artists live by their work, but scientists, too. We have a saying: choose a job you love, and you will not have to work a single day.
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The opportunity rarely arises for most of the population, work is a chore for mere mortals. I don't know if you're a theist, if you are you need to provide verse/page number if you want to back a statement using someone else's work.
 
parmalee said:
Speaking of using the Prophet 5 mostly for crazy shit, the new caroline album features this gem with a magnificent moment starting roughly at 3:16. ...
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I neglected to mention previously that the aforementioned "magnificent moment a 3:16" lies within the general vicinity of the elusive brown note, and when played at appropriate volume--and with adequate woofers, preferably a subwoofer--is an effective cure for chronic constipation.
 
parmalee said:
I neglected to mention previously that the aforementioned "magnificent moment a 3:16" lies within the general vicinity of the elusive brown note, and when played at appropriate volume--and with adequate woofers, preferably a subwoofer--is an effective cure for chronic constipation.
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I tried to repost to Wenbin's Shit Cure thread, but it is closed.

Maybe we can combine a few threads, obviously the black hole thread, and the constipation thread. But why stop there; we could roll in Fermer05's Plate Tectonics thread too!

We'll call it the Incontinental Drift Hypothesis.
 
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