Do we need money?

“Some people are so dependant on the system that they will fight to protect it”
Is that any better than star trek.
My point is that there is no need for money. We must come to thinking in which we no longer think about how much money I get today, but the growth of oneself. Were after all humans. We were not born with money attached to us, it was invented. As I said before we need to evolve our emotional intelligence. In short we need to improve ourselves, to live with ourselves, as were not doing too well at the moment.

Everybody gets what it is they need for the advancement of themselves and the human race. After all we are all in it together. Everybody should be able to decide who needs what and how much of it.
 
"Everybody gets what it is they need for the advancement of themselves and the human race. After all we are all in it together. Everybody should be able to decide who needs what and how much of it."

I want a million apples. And I'm not joking.

You're an apple farmer.

All I have to offer in return is a couple t-shirts. Wanna trade?
 
We were not born with money attached to us, it was invented.
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That does not make it unnecessary. I was not born with a supply of penicillian attatched, but if I come down with a bad staph infection, I need it to survive.
 
Medicine is necessary but if the whole world didn’t use money, would anyone die? (possibly the tax man).
I don’t know if that’s a question, but I’m not an apple farmer (as one person on here said he was). What is needed is an advancement that makes it possible to construct food, from the very atoms. Thus you would never need a million apples. I know this is a long way off, that’s one of the reasons why I said it wouldn’t happen in my lifetime. Do you not think this would be a better way to live?
 
Oggie:
Medicine is necessary but if the whole world didn’t use money, would anyone die?
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Yes, people would die.

What is needed is an advancement that makes it possible to construct food, from the very atoms. Thus you would never need a million apples. I know this is a long way off, that’s one of the reasons why I said it wouldn’t happen in my lifetime. Do you not think this would be a better way to live?
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How would one buy such an invention? How would one trade other goods?

And finally, why bother? What is wrong with money?
 
So how would I go get food? Are you insinuating that someone would work for free? Or that everyone would get equal protions no matter what they did?

If that was so, then I would do nothing but sit around.
 
Around 35,000 years ago, there was trade all across Europe. We know this from such artifacts as greenstone axe-heads from Austria found in Malta and dated form that period, and other such things. I don't think any tokens considered "money" have been found from that period.
 
Even Flintsones used money;)...

the problem with other kinds of trade is that it is not handy.like for example if a guy wants to buy out a pair of shoes without money,would he care to carry another stuff (so heavy and bulky than money)everywhere he is trading?

And oh yeah.money is damm important.remember those Richie Rich trailers?
"money cant buy freedom"

who cares about freedom when you have got a Rock 'n Roll band inside your living room.

money is root for evil...

yeah sure,so better keep good security systems so that it can protect yours...

;)

enjoy...


bye!
 
who would die without money?
the invenction would not be bought, but used for us all, if is given to all and all who want it. think about it, no more famen or hunger. (die mac donalds).
yes there is a huge problem of money, poeple die for money, wars are sarted for money, the problem is the greed of money! u can't tell me that money isnt bad. would u kill someone for a million pounds if no-one found out? if u even have to think about it, then i have proven my point.
the flintstones are a cartoon!
feerbom is inportant. think if u couldent leave your own house without the worry about someone will shout you b/c they feel like it. problem no?
everyone would work toward a single goal and that is the advancment of the human race, not the advancment of personal gain. am i wrong?
 
who would die without money?
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You bring agriculture to a standstill if you haven't a good means of trade. Famine results.

yes there is a huge problem of money, poeple die for money, wars are sarted for money, the problem is the greed of money!
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Wars are started over religion too.

u can't tell me that money isnt bad. would u kill someone for a million pounds if no-one found out? if u even have to think about it, then i have proven my point.
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I didn't. And I tell you that money is one of the most usefull human inventions ever.

everyone would work toward a single goal and that is the advancment of the human race, not the advancment of personal gain. am i wrong?
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You're wrong. People would work toward the goal of getting more commodities, whether or not money was used in getting them.
 
"everyone would work toward a single goal and that is the advancment of the human race, not the advancment of personal gain. am i wrong?"

Yup. For one, I would still work towards personal gain.
 
flintstones are a cartoon!
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AUGH *pulls out hair* Star Trek doesn't exist either, Oggie!!!

Wars are started neither for religion or money. they are started over 2 things, and two things only:power and land. Land is infinitely more valuable than money, and power is really what the people in charge want. Sure, on the foot-troop level, wars are fought over religion, but only because "God says kill all those people" can be a very good motivator to a religious people.


everyone would work toward a single goal and that is the advancment of the human race, not the advancment of personal gain. am i wrong?
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yes, you are wrong. No one would do anything and the entire planet would enter a dark age of epic proportions, because each person would have to be concerned with providing sustenence.

the invenction would not be bought, but used for us all, if is given to all and all who want it. think about it, no more famen or hunger.
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with what resources? with what materials would this amazing invention be made? how does this invention get made, Oggie?

think if u couldent leave your own house without the worry about someone will shout you b/c they feel like it
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Er... i don't think I've ever worried that someone might shout at me because they feel like it. Unless you mean someone will SHOOT me because they feel like it. in that case that is the risk that we take every day for living in a free soceity. and that can happen in any soceity. even a moneyless one where everyone holds hands and sings 60's protest songs.
 
Oggie,

that was a jest intented to tell how importatnt money could have been (if life like that existed)...;)

gee...



bye!
 
i still don't think money is a good thing. if we never infented money, would we now all have died? i think not. we should not need to use money, we are all humans, why bother with it all.

i know start trek isent real, but the ideas are.

im looking at this as if i was above the earth looking down, watching people live and die by this thing called money. can anyone else see that pitcher?
 
Nope, because we all think logically instead of idealistically.

You seem to miss the problems with erasing money. For one, then does everyone get an equal share of everything? If not then you have to make trade the way to get products. And trade is just a primitive form of money. If so then you'll see a ton of people not doing any work. I'll be one of them. It happened in large areas of the former Soviet Union. People just didn't work.

"if we never infented money, would we now all have died? i think not"

Is there any logic behind this? Did Hitler fight for money? Did Stalin fight for money? Did Napolean fight for money? Were the French/English wars about money? No.
 
Tyler:
I think it's probably more appropriate to say that money is a more sophisticated form of trade.
 
Sorry for jumping in so late, but I just cant resist.
MONEY - itself is not a bad thing. (Bad dollar bill, bad dollar bill!) Its the person holding the money that is bad. Its the greed that accompanies the money. If we were all using buffalo chips instead of currency, people would still find a reason to bitch and fight. If we took out all the money and started trading - would that end world wars and famine and - well you get the point. Im not into materialist things in any way, so I dont go out of my way and waste money to buy those things. But that doesnt mean a person is bad because he likes the finer things in life, it just means you two have a different perspective on things. Neither one is better.

And to all you people bitching about money being a bad thing - well arent you sitting here using 1000 dollars machines to state your opinion? If you dont like money, sell all you sh*t, move to the mountains and eat berries. More power to ya!!!

Take care. :)
 
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AUGH! What is your obsession with Star Trek?!?! it is *FICTION*. It DOES NOT EXIST. Everyone repeat after me "Star Trek does not exist... it is a work of fiction... Captain Kirk is played by a hack actor... Spock will not come down to the planet and wear a headband... Mark Hamil is not really Luke Skywalker...". it simply doesn't work people!!! it's not even a logical argument!!! it's television!!! that's like saying that all crimes should be solved in an hour because that's how they do it on Law and Order!! You're saying "There's a society that doesn't exist that doesn't use money and it spans the galaxy, and they're doing fine. Why do we need money?"! Do you see how nonsensical that is???

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Ok, I feel better now.

Seriously, trade has been with us since we've written things down. In fact, trade is the impetus from which we elevate ourselves above the animals bopping around in the forest. Without trade in our history and our present, I see one of two scenarios for the human race:

1: We remain barely sentient omnivores, grunting at the sky and doing the hunter/gatherer deal.
2: We ALL work as crude farmers, and everyone invents their own wheel, their own irrigation concept, their own better plows, and their own grain stock. Our lives are hard, dirty, sweaty, smelly, and spent in fear of losing our land and our livelihood to war, famine, disease, or unpredictable climate change.

I don't disagree with the idea of separating oneself from the culture and "look down on the earth from above" but if you're going to do that you're either going to have to examine the facts in front of you more carefully, and look past the superficial issues into the root cause of where the real problems occur.
 
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